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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Edge changed their available updates on 4-18. You only have one firmware and one calibration and they are both labeled Release(Stable). They added about 10 hex codes, col for you guys whose hex are supported, still sux for me
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Is the release labelled 'beta' or 'unstable'?

If so, do you really want to play roulette with your pcm? It's not like they are paying you to do this ... wait for a stable, production release.

If you are still having issues, then it is NOT working. Going in to failsafe is SERIOUSLY not good!

Crystal ball sees a 'no-start' a tow & a dealer reflash in your future! LOL!
I don't see it as playing roulette with the pcm.. but could be a problem in engine parameters. The pcm is just a ROM chip.. no rocket science there. I have been running the edge on my 07 FFV truck and the only problem I have had with the "unstable" program 26 is throwing the PCM ROM error that so many have seen. It is a pain to reset the code after every start up, but really no big deal. The truck runs great and I am getting about .5 mpg better than stock. I could have sworn that I tryed to update after ther 18th of April.. I didn't see any new versions. But I didn't see the version I am running either.... hope they didn't pull that one for issues!! I was assured that I wouldn't have problems other than the code from using this "unstable" program.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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After a day of tinkering mine is working on level 2 with tire and gear changes. I also firmed up the shift points a bit. But, if I try anything else like firmer shift points or timing it throws the truck into failsafe mode. Its running good right now so I am keeping it that way until another couple updates.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mbogosia
I am pretty sure it said Beta. The truck is fine now, but can anyone explain Failsafe mode and what it means.
With my 2007, it goes in Failsafe while it is writing to the PCM. Once it is complete, everything is normal, no lights on on the dash. I've been using v27 for a while now and have not had a problem. And the Failsafe mode is the trucks "limp home" mode. It's a safety feature Ford incorporated into the new F150's due to the drive-by-wire gas pedal. It's made to prevent a runaway truck situation so if there is an error in the system, it won't leave you stranded on the side of the road. It will feel like it's running on 3 cylinders, but it's designed to get you "home" (back to the dealer to be repaired).
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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hey phqchevys...< get a kick outta that name lol but where did you buy your truck from. JW because I bought mine from Mac Haik down there about 2 weeks ago..
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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Masone,

Why dont you get an Edge and try it out, that way I can borrow it and see how it works in mine
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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I want to real bad but i may just be getting the XCAL 2 since it seems that it doesnt have near the bugs the edges do
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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Guess I'll let ya know, just ordered an Edge $386 shipped.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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From where? You not worried about the codes its throwing? I think im going with the XCal 2 we can see how each of them work
 
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Gunny will get his Edge next week if not sooner. Masone you won't get the Xcal for at least 1 month and that is if you order today. Atleast that is what i've been seeing. It takes awhile to get custom tunes.

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I expect to hear from Chris soon on the tunes and I need to sit on both hands to keep from checking my email software!

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I would guess you still have another couple weeks on the tunes.
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I expect to hear from Chris soon on the tunes and I need to sit on both hands to keep from checking my email software!

Feel like a kid at Christmas time.


I am to, but after reading what Andy-jr wrote I thought I'd go back and look for a post I remembered reading awhile back. Here it is (post #10);


Basically it says that they normally take 18-22 business days from the time they got your sheets (so in my case I sent my sheets in March 19th so today makes the 27th business day since I sent in my sheets). I would be expecting my tunes any day now until I read the part that states that Mike got 7 project vehicles that put them about 2.5 weeks behind.

I certainly hope it's sooner than a couple more weeks as this wait is getting more and more agonizing. I keep checking my email 3 or 4 times a day hoping that they are in there.
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I hate to give you the bad news but MIke is very bussy, I ordered mine on January 26th and I just got them this past Monday. I knew there was a wait time so it was ok for me. Just remember that good (great) things come to those who wait.
 

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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by masone
From where? You not worried about the codes its throwing? I think im going with the XCal 2 we can see how each of them work

Got it from Ebay. I guess I'll see how it turns out. I really didnt feel like waiting months for something. I'm sure Troyers product is well worth the $, but I would think that they would increase production to meet the consumers demand. You dont see just one Subway do you?

..anyway, I rolled the dice, we'll see what happens.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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I will talk to troyer today and see how long it will take him if not i may get it tuned here in town who knows i just hget frustrated easy and dont wanna wait a year for the edge to be stable
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Ahh... the 'Instant Gratification' crowd is still alive & well

The comparison to Subway is lame. Any monkey can slap a sub sandwich together. Far fewer can tune these tucks properly, and only ONE has been doing if for 15+ years, and has the most experience doing so.

Those of us who waited, while it was not easy, consider it more than well worth the time it takes for one consummate professional to work his magic.

A suit off the rack, or a tailored one. One looks 'ok', the other looks & fits perfect.

I'll take quality over quantity any day. And - I can make a far better sandwich than Subway or any other fast food 'choke&puke' can. Will take me longer, though.

Your choice.
 

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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MGDfan,

I take it that you are the self appointed spokes person for Troyer Performance? I haven't seen any positive posts from you about anything expect TP. I wasn't bashing TP, just voicing my opinion.

My reference about Subway was merely a comment suggesting that TP expand their business based on supply and demand. If you have a good thing going why not expand. The waiting time seems to be a turn off for some.

I'm sure the "Magic" that Mike does can be taught because I'm willing to bet that most of this is data base related. After all, I'm sure Bill Gates doesn't write code for Microsoft anymore, he has employees that do that.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunny77
MGDfan,

I take it that you are the self appointed spokes person for Troyer Performance?
Nope. Just a happy camper LOL!

Originally Posted by Gunny77
I haven't seen any positive posts from you about anything expect TP. I wasn't bashing TP, just voicing my opinion..
Wow - just because you haven't seen 'em I guess they don't exist . LMAO! There's plenty. You can look. Or not. Don't care.

Originally Posted by Gunny77
I'm sure the "Magic" that Mike does can be taught because I'm willing to bet that most of this is data base related. After all, I'm sure Bill Gates doesn't write code for Microsoft anymore, he has employees that do that.
Nope. The data may be in a database, but NOT the intuition,, skill, experience, motivation & talent.

Bye
 
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