Do these PCM's "learn"? I.E. adjust programming you put in?

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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Do these PCM's "learn"? I.E. adjust programming you put in?

For some background...I come from a Chevy 5.3 that I used to tune w/ a hypertech programmer. I noticed in the beginning that the motor was a hotrod when I first bought it, then after a few months it seemed to lose some power. So I went in and tuned it... and well it was a hot rod again. But once again, after a few months passed it seemed to lose power again. So, I pulled the programming and went back to stock. The motor was back to it's alter ego speed demon self. This lasted two to three months.... and well you get the idea now. I had found out on a few Chevy's forums and one of the leading Chevy tuners who is here in my state, that these motors had computers that would "learn" how you drive and adjust for best possible MPG.

So now I own a Ford and thinking about tuning it. Do these motors do this as well?

The reason I ask is, a dealer recently had my truck for a two week period after my fuel line blew apart (still no cause). They drove my truck and racked up over 200 miles (I made them drive it a bit to make sure everything was ok and then they drove it back to me as I was out of town when the problem happened and I made them bring it to me). When I got the truck back, it seemed like a totally different truck. I assumed it was b/c it had adjusted to the other driver. But It could just be b/c I had got use to the rental car. It could all be perception.

So I'll repeat the question. Do these motors "learn" and adjust to the driver?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigeman
For some background...I come from a Chevy 5.3 that I used to tune w/ a hypertech programmer. I noticed in the beginning that the motor was a hotrod when I first bought it, then after a few months it seemed to lose some power. So I went in and tuned it... and well it was a hot rod again. But once again, after a few months passed it seemed to lose power again. So, I pulled the programming and went back to stock. The motor was back to it's alter ego speed demon self. This lasted two to three months.... and well you get the idea now. I had found out on a few Chevy's forums and one of the leading Chevy tuners who is here in my state, that these motors had computers that would "learn" how you drive and adjust for best possible MPG.

So now I own a Ford and thinking about tuning it. Do these motors do this as well?

The reason I ask is, a dealer recently had my truck for a two week period after my fuel line blew apart (still no cause). They drove my truck and racked up over 200 miles (I made them drive it a bit to make sure everything was ok and then they drove it back to me as I was out of town when the problem happened and I made them bring it to me). When I got the truck back, it seemed like a totally different truck. I assumed it was b/c it had adjusted to the other driver. But It could just be b/c I had got use to the rental car. It could all be perception.

So I'll repeat the question. Do these motors "learn" and adjust to the driver?
They sure do.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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So whichever programming I decide on, Edge or Troyer, I'm gonna have to pull it and let the computer reset every couple of months like I did w/ my Chevy. Correct?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 12:59 AM
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Read this. https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...light=adaptive
 
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Hmmmm, interesting! Thank You for the reading... for some reason when I searched, I didn't pull anything.

So is Troyer saying it was basically my perception on the Chevy?

On this truck, I'm accounting it to the fact that I got use to the Rental Car I was in. But that doesn't account to why it was so noticeable in the Chevy. 97% shouldn't be that noticeable daily... but I'm telling you, the throttle response was DRASTICALLY noticeable.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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Interesting, I thought this may be the case. I installed an Edge on level 2 and let it run a few thousand miles. Decided to update the software so returned it to stock and then reprogrammed level 2 back in. It felt just like a noticeable difference even though it was same tune. A week ago I went back to stock to prepare for PA emissions test, drove for a week on stock tune and couldn't feel a huge dropoff from the level 2 tune. Guess it's worth reapplying the tune every so often.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Tigeman, if you want the absolute best throttle response, the biggest safe and sustainable hp & torque gains and the very best overall drivability you’re a candidate for the TP custom tuned XCal2

I’ve been using Mike’s custom tuning since 12-03-04 and it has been the best mod I ever did. It’s totally transformed the way the truck responds and the tune feels as fresh today as it did on day one

It's the way to go IMO
 
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Dito!
 
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Thank You for the suggestion. But that's not actually what I'm after. I've determined that the edge better suits my particular needs. Although if I were doing more to my truck then I would probably go w/ Troyer.
 
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