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Thanks...
The fuel list is great.... I would not have though the numbers would work out that way...
I figured that you had a reason for the shift points that is why I have not bothered you with it. And yes I guess I am finally guilty of a seat of the pants reaction....
I should have added that the firmer shift is really nice. It will even chirp the tires accelerating hard up a hill... What the heck, all that weight is good for somthing...
I really have enjoyed that Stage one kit. The truck is a lot more fun to drive. It is certianly not as fast as my 05 Mustang GT, but it does seem to suprize a lot more people. I had a great laugh at a guy in a "tuned" honda V6 accord... ( He did not think it was so funny... )
I wish your shop was closer, I'd have you make a few more mods and re-tune.... It is kinda addictive...
I figured that you had a reason for the shift points that is why I have not bothered you with it. And yes I guess I am finally guilty of a seat of the pants reaction....
I should have added that the firmer shift is really nice. It will even chirp the tires accelerating hard up a hill... What the heck, all that weight is good for somthing...
I really have enjoyed that Stage one kit. The truck is a lot more fun to drive. It is certianly not as fast as my 05 Mustang GT, but it does seem to suprize a lot more people. I had a great laugh at a guy in a "tuned" honda V6 accord... ( He did not think it was so funny... )
I wish your shop was closer, I'd have you make a few more mods and re-tune.... It is kinda addictive...
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Hi sranger,
Thanks for your post & comments.
Seat of the pants is the most natural thing for ALL of us to do - and just about all is us do it, of course.
From the tuner's standpoint, especially in heavier vehicles, we have to literally ignore it as it's just not accurate in most situations - some people can't feel a 50 HP gain in the seat of the pants on a 3-ton vehicle, let alone a 20 or 30 HP gain! And then there are some who will RAVE about a 20 HP gain, as they are just that experienced/that "in tune & in touch" with their vehicle.
When selecting shift points, it's also a very common thing for almost everyone to want to upshift the instant the engine is not pulling quite as hard - again, perfectly normal. But it's a matter of what actually provides the best performance without abusing the powertrain, and that's where we get into the ratio spread between the gears & actually testing to see what gets the job done, as seat of the pants leads us astray in those areas.
It's a lot to take in & get used to, because it really goes against the grain of the typical performance enthusiast who is so indoctrinated with seat of the pants feel - so I think it's just a natural thing for all of us that we sometimes have to set aside.
It's not easy to get used to not going by seat of the pants feel in some areas - all perfectly normal.
With regard to doing more mods - darn near everything we do can be supplied in a bolt-on configuration so that either the vehicle owner or their local mechanic can install it. And for tuning, we can tune any of these vehicles with our having access to them. If it's a complex configuration, then we'll need to get some data on it, but we include complete datalogging instructions for each of our custom tuning customers, and we can also provide the datalogging gear required to get that data if need be, at affordable pricing. So there's always a way to get it done, either by coming here or remotely. And yes, you're absolutely right as usual - it *is* highly additive. We call it a "progressive disease."
Have fun,
Thanks for your post & comments.
Seat of the pants is the most natural thing for ALL of us to do - and just about all is us do it, of course.
From the tuner's standpoint, especially in heavier vehicles, we have to literally ignore it as it's just not accurate in most situations - some people can't feel a 50 HP gain in the seat of the pants on a 3-ton vehicle, let alone a 20 or 30 HP gain! And then there are some who will RAVE about a 20 HP gain, as they are just that experienced/that "in tune & in touch" with their vehicle.
When selecting shift points, it's also a very common thing for almost everyone to want to upshift the instant the engine is not pulling quite as hard - again, perfectly normal. But it's a matter of what actually provides the best performance without abusing the powertrain, and that's where we get into the ratio spread between the gears & actually testing to see what gets the job done, as seat of the pants leads us astray in those areas.
It's a lot to take in & get used to, because it really goes against the grain of the typical performance enthusiast who is so indoctrinated with seat of the pants feel - so I think it's just a natural thing for all of us that we sometimes have to set aside.
It's not easy to get used to not going by seat of the pants feel in some areas - all perfectly normal.
With regard to doing more mods - darn near everything we do can be supplied in a bolt-on configuration so that either the vehicle owner or their local mechanic can install it. And for tuning, we can tune any of these vehicles with our having access to them. If it's a complex configuration, then we'll need to get some data on it, but we include complete datalogging instructions for each of our custom tuning customers, and we can also provide the datalogging gear required to get that data if need be, at affordable pricing. So there's always a way to get it done, either by coming here or remotely. And yes, you're absolutely right as usual - it *is* highly additive. We call it a "progressive disease."
Have fun,