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From: skokie.il usa
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THIS IS TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE CHIP WORKS.MY TRUCK IS A 2000 F-150EXT LB
157WHEEL BASE.IT FLYS!!!!I CAN'T EVEN FIND ANYONE TO RACE ME THIER ALL TO SCARED!!!!
OK WELL MAYBE ONE GUY.I CAME UP ON A 98 MUSTANG AT THE RED LIGHT.HE JUST LOOKS OVER AT ME AND THINKS NO WAY THIS BIG TRUCK IS GOING TO BEAT ME {A CAR WAS ABOUT 200 FEET AHEAD}SO I PUT IT IN NEUTRAL AND GIVE IT A FEW RPMS HE LOOKS OVER AND THE LIGHT CHANGES GOOD BYE!!!!I LEFT HIM AT THE LIGHT LOOKING AT ME HE TRIED BUT NO WAY I'D LET HIM IN!!!!
BAD*SS TRUCK...THANKS TO MIKE AT SUPERCHIPS!!
I CAN LAY 50 FEET OF RUBBER WITH A 200LB BEDCAP ON THE BACK.TELL ME THATS NOT BAD!!!
2000 F-150 157 WHEEL BASE
CUSTOM SUPERCHIP
K&N GEN II KIT
RAVIN CLASS 55 3"IN 2-2.5 OUT REAR
GRANATELLI MASS AIRFLOW 80MM
THIS IS TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE CHIP WORKS.MY TRUCK IS A 2000 F-150EXT LB
157WHEEL BASE.IT FLYS!!!!I CAN'T EVEN FIND ANYONE TO RACE ME THIER ALL TO SCARED!!!!
OK WELL MAYBE ONE GUY.I CAME UP ON A 98 MUSTANG AT THE RED LIGHT.HE JUST LOOKS OVER AT ME AND THINKS NO WAY THIS BIG TRUCK IS GOING TO BEAT ME {A CAR WAS ABOUT 200 FEET AHEAD}SO I PUT IT IN NEUTRAL AND GIVE IT A FEW RPMS HE LOOKS OVER AND THE LIGHT CHANGES GOOD BYE!!!!I LEFT HIM AT THE LIGHT LOOKING AT ME HE TRIED BUT NO WAY I'D LET HIM IN!!!!
BAD*SS TRUCK...THANKS TO MIKE AT SUPERCHIPS!!
I CAN LAY 50 FEET OF RUBBER WITH A 200LB BEDCAP ON THE BACK.TELL ME THATS NOT BAD!!!
2000 F-150 157 WHEEL BASE
CUSTOM SUPERCHIP
K&N GEN II KIT
RAVIN CLASS 55 3"IN 2-2.5 OUT REAR
GRANATELLI MASS AIRFLOW 80MM
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From: skokie.il usa
BIKES, I THINK YOU NEED A GEN II KIT YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED.I COULD GET RUBBER BEFORE I DID ANY MODS JUST STOCK!!!!AND IF I'M ON THE SLIGHTEST TURN RIGHT OR LEFT IT WON'T STOP SMOKING THE TIRES TILL I LET OFF THE GAS.I ONLY HAVE 16INCH TIRES.THE GUYS AT MIDAS ARE MY WITNESS.AFTER THEY PUT ON MY RAVIN{WHICH BY THE WAY ARE THE REEL FLOWMASTERS THEY BLOW FLOWMASTERS AWAY!!!!}
I PROCEEDED TO LIGHT UP THE WHOLE INTERSECTION IN FRONT OF THIER WORK.AND IF A BRAKE IT ALITTLE TO ABOUT 3000RPMS WATCH OUT ABOUT A 100 FOOT PATCHON THE PAVEMENT!!!
I PROCEEDED TO LIGHT UP THE WHOLE INTERSECTION IN FRONT OF THIER WORK.AND IF A BRAKE IT ALITTLE TO ABOUT 3000RPMS WATCH OUT ABOUT A 100 FOOT PATCHON THE PAVEMENT!!!
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That's a bummer on your HD not gettin any rubber. I have one on order and I'll be bummed if I can't get a little scratch now and then. Heck, my v6 Dakota I'm driving now amazes me how it will lite em up from a dead start.
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- Soon to be 2001 F150 Harley Davidson Special
- 1993 Mazda Miata, wifes car
- 1994 Harley Davidson Heritage
- 1976 Honda CB750K, Original
- 1965 Honda 305 Dream, Original
- 1971 Triumph Trophy 650, Original
- 1971 Norton Commando
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- 1984 Yamaha Virago 1000, wifes bike
- 1981 Honda Passport 70, wifes bike
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From: Virginia
Hi Guys,
I just wanted to kinda chime in here with a comment about this whole thing of which F-150's will spin the tires, and which won't. (And of course we're happy for fst5.4ltr that he's able to smoke 'em at will)
First, we all know about the basics, meaning the effective power-to-weight ratio combined with the rear gear ratio for torque miltiplication, as these F-150's can weigh anywhere from a bit under 4000 lbs. in the lightest V-6 manual tranny short cab 2WD configuration to close to 7000 lbs. in the very heaviest configurations. So how the F-150 is configured, and of course which mods it has, are a big factor.
But that aside, which tires and the ambient road temperatures at that time have a heck of a lot to do with this as well. The factory 16" tire package has the least dry traction, and consequently is much easier to "light up". Combine that with winter time, when ambient air temps are low & air is nice & dense for the intake air charge, and then the cold pavement temps reducing traction even further, and you have a recipe where it's far easier to spin the tires.
With "bikestudga's" situation, he has 20" wheels so obviously they aren't stock tires, and he probably has considerably higher dry traction as a result. We don't know if he has any other mods in addition to his Superchip, so that too could potentially be an issue, but the tires alone, to say nothing of air & pavement temps, have far more to do with this than most people realize, so it's something to consider.
As we can see from fst5.4ltr's comments, he was able to spin the tires bone-stock, and he has the 16" tire package, etc.
What I'm saying is, it's not just a matter of power-to-weight, though that is of course the single biggest factor, but it's also which tires and their effective dry adhesion levels, as well as ambient air & pavement temps that have a considerable effect as well.
Good luck fellas!
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I just wanted to kinda chime in here with a comment about this whole thing of which F-150's will spin the tires, and which won't. (And of course we're happy for fst5.4ltr that he's able to smoke 'em at will)
First, we all know about the basics, meaning the effective power-to-weight ratio combined with the rear gear ratio for torque miltiplication, as these F-150's can weigh anywhere from a bit under 4000 lbs. in the lightest V-6 manual tranny short cab 2WD configuration to close to 7000 lbs. in the very heaviest configurations. So how the F-150 is configured, and of course which mods it has, are a big factor.
But that aside, which tires and the ambient road temperatures at that time have a heck of a lot to do with this as well. The factory 16" tire package has the least dry traction, and consequently is much easier to "light up". Combine that with winter time, when ambient air temps are low & air is nice & dense for the intake air charge, and then the cold pavement temps reducing traction even further, and you have a recipe where it's far easier to spin the tires.
With "bikestudga's" situation, he has 20" wheels so obviously they aren't stock tires, and he probably has considerably higher dry traction as a result. We don't know if he has any other mods in addition to his Superchip, so that too could potentially be an issue, but the tires alone, to say nothing of air & pavement temps, have far more to do with this than most people realize, so it's something to consider.
As we can see from fst5.4ltr's comments, he was able to spin the tires bone-stock, and he has the 16" tire package, etc.
What I'm saying is, it's not just a matter of power-to-weight, though that is of course the single biggest factor, but it's also which tires and their effective dry adhesion levels, as well as ambient air & pavement temps that have a considerable effect as well.
Good luck fellas!
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From: atlanta,ga,usa
Mike -
Once again, your verbosity is astounding! I have a '01 Harley SuperCrew with the "stock" 20" wheels, Goodyear Eagle GTII 275/45 R20 rubbers (H rated, btw). I would think that since my truck's weighted heavily from midline forward, I should be able to get a little squeek out of em... but, alas, I'll have to stick to the straight and narrow...
thanks for the info anyway -
jeff
Once again, your verbosity is astounding! I have a '01 Harley SuperCrew with the "stock" 20" wheels, Goodyear Eagle GTII 275/45 R20 rubbers (H rated, btw). I would think that since my truck's weighted heavily from midline forward, I should be able to get a little squeek out of em... but, alas, I'll have to stick to the straight and narrow...
thanks for the info anyway -
jeff
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My tires wont light up on launch, well, depends. When it wants to is a better way to say it. Sometimes I can do a very long 30-50 feet patch or longer if I hold down the gas, and sometimes it just puts you in your seat and goes.
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From: Virginia
Hi bikestudga,
How could I ever have forgotten that the HD model comes with those beautiful 20" wheels stock!
I didn't catch that you had the HD model, I just saw the 20" mentioned in your post, my goof, but the logic and the analogy still holds basically true. There is a tremendous amount of difference between the various wheel & tire factory options on these F-150's in terms of their dry traction levels, and when that is combined with air & pavement temp variations, we quickly see that in these heavy vehicles, this can make all the difference in which ones will and which will not spin the tires, even if otherwise identically equipped.
My point was simply that the 20" wheel & tire setup, which *is* stock on the HD model but not on any other F-150, has considerably more dry traction than either the 16" or the 17" tires the other F-150's have, in our experience with our customers. It also seems that the 16" tires have the least dry traction, the 17" a bit more, and then probably the 20" tires on your HD model, and last, the 18" units on the Lightning seem to have the most dry traction, from what we've seen.
You want a good laugh? Many years ago, when I was managing a body shop for a Chrysler-Plymouth dealership, we had a customer with a tiny little Toyota economy sedan, with an automatic transmission. I don't remember the model, it was a tiny little car with an even smaller 4-banger for a motor, that had *zero* guts to it. However, if it's owner manually shifted it's automatic transmisison just right, you could catch it going into second gear right about at it's torque peak, and get a satisfying and very surprising little "screech!" out of the tires on that 1-2 upshift, go figure. Of course, it wouldn't break the tires loose from a standstill even on wet roads, but if you got it just right, it would give you a little 1-2 scratch in dry conditions. Funny little car!
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How could I ever have forgotten that the HD model comes with those beautiful 20" wheels stock!
I didn't catch that you had the HD model, I just saw the 20" mentioned in your post, my goof, but the logic and the analogy still holds basically true. There is a tremendous amount of difference between the various wheel & tire factory options on these F-150's in terms of their dry traction levels, and when that is combined with air & pavement temp variations, we quickly see that in these heavy vehicles, this can make all the difference in which ones will and which will not spin the tires, even if otherwise identically equipped.
My point was simply that the 20" wheel & tire setup, which *is* stock on the HD model but not on any other F-150, has considerably more dry traction than either the 16" or the 17" tires the other F-150's have, in our experience with our customers. It also seems that the 16" tires have the least dry traction, the 17" a bit more, and then probably the 20" tires on your HD model, and last, the 18" units on the Lightning seem to have the most dry traction, from what we've seen.
You want a good laugh? Many years ago, when I was managing a body shop for a Chrysler-Plymouth dealership, we had a customer with a tiny little Toyota economy sedan, with an automatic transmission. I don't remember the model, it was a tiny little car with an even smaller 4-banger for a motor, that had *zero* guts to it. However, if it's owner manually shifted it's automatic transmisison just right, you could catch it going into second gear right about at it's torque peak, and get a satisfying and very surprising little "screech!" out of the tires on that 1-2 upshift, go figure.
Of course, it wouldn't break the tires loose from a standstill even on wet roads, but if you got it just right, it would give you a little 1-2 scratch in dry conditions. Funny little car!------------------
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Funny tou mention that Mike. I had a 1979 Z-28 pretty much stock at first, just duals. I would take off with the shifter in 2nd and then shift it into Drive exactly when it hit 2nd gear and hit hard and yes, grab a 2nd gear scratch (as we called it back then). Peole couldn't believe I could do that. And I could even do it without going WOT; just firm acceleration and "bark". 
Of course then I blew it up and rebuilt a little badder yet mild enough along with a mild shift kit. Still couldn't take any my friends that had, what the heck were they back then, 6.something (403) TA's. The old "Smokey and the Bandit" cruisers. Man they had some top end.....
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Of course then I blew it up and rebuilt a little badder yet mild enough along with a mild shift kit. Still couldn't take any my friends that had, what the heck were they back then, 6.something (403) TA's. The old "Smokey and the Bandit" cruisers. Man they had some top end.....
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max,
i didn't join f150 to have you tell me about my truck.I didn't say the stang couldn't beat me i said he was sleeping and yes i took him for the first 100 or so but he didn't have any *****.It takes guts to be a good driver.I also have a 78 Z-28 that i take up to wisc. to union grove its only a 350 v8 but its dyno at 450 horse.I'M AT 9.90
in a 1/4 mile.So don't tell me whats fast is just stay out of my posts!!!everyone has THEY'RE own opinion.So respect mine!!!!
and my truck is fast for 7000lbs.it pins you in the seat!!!!so you belive what you want.
p.s I'VE DRIVEN A NASCAR ON MICH.INT.SPEEDWAY
SO I KNOW HOW TO DRIVE ALOT BETTER THAN ALOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW.EVER TAKE A 700 HORSE CAR AT 180 AROUND A TRACK DON'T THINK SO!!!SOME OF MY FRIENDS WON'T EVEN GO IN ANY OF MY CARS!!!!TOO SCARED!!!
NO FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2000 f150 5.4 triton v8
extcab with 8 foot bed
custom superchip
k&n genII kit
granatelli mass air 80mm
ravin class 55 muffler
3in 2-2.5 mandrel bent out the back
3in stainless steel tips
bug flector bug guard
gps tail light covers
gps vent sheilds
off road package
i didn't join f150 to have you tell me about my truck.I didn't say the stang couldn't beat me i said he was sleeping and yes i took him for the first 100 or so but he didn't have any *****.It takes guts to be a good driver.I also have a 78 Z-28 that i take up to wisc. to union grove its only a 350 v8 but its dyno at 450 horse.I'M AT 9.90
in a 1/4 mile.So don't tell me whats fast is just stay out of my posts!!!everyone has THEY'RE own opinion.So respect mine!!!!
and my truck is fast for 7000lbs.it pins you in the seat!!!!so you belive what you want.
p.s I'VE DRIVEN A NASCAR ON MICH.INT.SPEEDWAY
SO I KNOW HOW TO DRIVE ALOT BETTER THAN ALOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW.EVER TAKE A 700 HORSE CAR AT 180 AROUND A TRACK DON'T THINK SO!!!SOME OF MY FRIENDS WON'T EVEN GO IN ANY OF MY CARS!!!!TOO SCARED!!!
NO FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2000 f150 5.4 triton v8
extcab with 8 foot bed
custom superchip
k&n genII kit
granatelli mass air 80mm
ravin class 55 muffler
3in 2-2.5 mandrel bent out the back
3in stainless steel tips
bug flector bug guard
gps tail light covers
gps vent sheilds
off road package
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ok max where are you from?
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2000 f150 5.4 triton v8
extcab with 8 foot bed
custom superchip
k&n genII kit
granatelli mass air 80mm
ravin class 55 muffler
3in 2-2.5 mandrel bent out the back
3in stainless steel tips
bug flector bug guard
gps tail light covers
gps vent sheilds
off road package
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2000 f150 5.4 triton v8
extcab with 8 foot bed
custom superchip
k&n genII kit
granatelli mass air 80mm
ravin class 55 muffler
3in 2-2.5 mandrel bent out the back
3in stainless steel tips
bug flector bug guard
gps tail light covers
gps vent sheilds
off road package
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OK, I hesitate to do this but first of all guy, Grow UP!!!, now you will probably post some stupid response telling me to shut up or that your old or what ever, even more proving my point. I am 21, so I believe I have beef to talk with being that you seem immature to me.
Second, anyone can pay $350's to drive for 10 or 20 laps at 150 or so at a speed way. (National track regulations restrict non race licenced drivers to 155, not 180) so Get off your high horse.
Third why are you boasting about punching it next to a mustang at a light? Would you say the same thing about a herse just because he didn't want to waste his time? If you want a mustang to race you, I have an 83 mustang with a 347 stoker in the garage and all I have to do is restab the distributor and I will give you what you want. No fear right?
Now, we are all f-150 guys, and hopefully some fellow mustangers (Corralers) too, and you are more than welcome to interact with us at this great site, but don't throw down that stupid crap that you brag about to your 14 year old brother that doesn't know the differece. And don't tell me I can't tell you what to post because I know I can't. I am just trying to save you the embarrasment.
Good Day...
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Second, anyone can pay $350's to drive for 10 or 20 laps at 150 or so at a speed way. (National track regulations restrict non race licenced drivers to 155, not 180) so Get off your high horse.
Third why are you boasting about punching it next to a mustang at a light? Would you say the same thing about a herse just because he didn't want to waste his time? If you want a mustang to race you, I have an 83 mustang with a 347 stoker in the garage and all I have to do is restab the distributor and I will give you what you want. No fear right?
Now, we are all f-150 guys, and hopefully some fellow mustangers (Corralers) too, and you are more than welcome to interact with us at this great site, but don't throw down that stupid crap that you brag about to your 14 year old brother that doesn't know the differece. And don't tell me I can't tell you what to post because I know I can't. I am just trying to save you the embarrasment.
Good Day...
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-MB Quart Reference, 2 JL-8W0
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hey 4x4,
how come all you guys from the south have no brains!!!!!come on up north and see what fast is any time pal.and note you put in the garage i'll bet it stays there!!!!!
and what do you do for a living *sshole?
how come all you guys from the south have no brains!!!!!come on up north and see what fast is any time pal.and note you put in the garage i'll bet it stays there!!!!!
and what do you do for a living *sshole?