Sorry about that I was hip to the check box on signatures. I've got the Sport 17" Al rims. I like em, but nothing like those 20's. As far as the FIPK question I don't know, I'm still learning all this stuff. I came from a 4cyl 85 Toyota truck to my F-150, so things have changed alot, especially when I was looking for a distributor cap....Duh there is no cap. Like I said I learning that's why I started coming to this place. I'm trying to convince Santa (aka wife) to let me get the chip soon. Then I can put it through the rigorous testing by the Butt Dyno (aka seat of pants test).
Have a good holiday if I don't talk to you before then.


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2000 2W F150 (Flareside Black ExCab) 5.4L with K&N FIPK,Flowmaster Delta 40, Twin dual 3" pipes out the back, Stock Ford Sport 17" Rims

 

Hi Goochy,

That's an *excdellent* idea, talk to someone who has already done just that, I'm glad you've got access to someone you can talk to about the before & after differences they felt & noticed.

Good luck!

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
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Thanks for the info Mike.

I've not actually gotten those parts (TB and MAF), but I just was curious (I'm a scientist, I'm paid to be curious) . Sounds like the superchip is the way to get the go-go I'm looking for. I'll check with Santa.

Again thanks for taking the time to explain it to a novice.

Happy Holidays.


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2000 2W F150 (Flareside Black ExCab) 5.4L with K&N FIPK,Flowmaster Delta 40, Twin dual 3" pipes out the back, Stock Ford Sport 17" Rims

 

I just ordered the gibson sweptside from F-150 online and got the best deal handsdown. Thanks Roger for the great service. Mike

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1999 F-150 Lariat SC 2 WD, White/Silver, 5.4L, 3.55LS, K & N FIPK, Superchip, underdrive pulley set, Dynomax Super Turbo Series Exhaust, six disc CD changer, towing package and captain chairs

 

(Actually, 5150PhD, my question was for Mike and I included it in some talk with you! And, I after reading that you have recently upgraded from an '85 Toyota, to that classy and black F-150 (sig looks good), you gotta be in heaven! Cool!)


OK, Question for MIKE!!!!: During the installation of my new K&N FIPK I disconnected the battery again (as suggested in the instructions). Would that have been necessary to get the new setup (with the FIPK) up to speed more quickly or could I have just left the battery alone. Guess I'm lazy, but am getting tired of resetting all the radio stations, clock, etc. Wonder why they don't just put a lousy $.90 cent lithium battery in the radio so one doesn't lose all the settings?

Am really pleased with the FIPK. Adds a great new mean sound to the engine on hard acceleration, not to mention an extra kick in the pants.

Thanks,
Don


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'00 F-150 Harley-Davidson Edition
Hard Tonneau Cover
Superchip
K&N FIPK
Hidden Hitch w/Harley Logo
Peronalized Plate: F150 HD
'99 FLHRCI '95 XLH

 

Sorry about that, still learning the whole message board ediquet. Yeah, having 4 more cylinders is so nice. Mash the pedal and things actually happen.

My dodge buddy sent me this website. Check it out, slaps the taste right out of a ricers mouth

http://www.angelfire.com/nc2/mycoffeecan/


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2000 2W F150 (Flareside Black ExCab) 5.4L with K&N FIPK,Flowmaster Delta 40, Twin dual 3" pipes out the back, Stock Ford Sport 17" Rims

 

Hi Brossman,

Yes, for the most part they are cumulative rather than cancelling each other out, which is why those 3 particular mods are among the most popular, I suppose.

The exact amount of power gain from the Superchip will depend on your exact altitude, weather conditions, & fuel supply of course, but the maximum gains from the Superchip on the 5.4 are 28 hp & 46 lbs./ft. of torque at sea level. If you are a little bit above sea level, and using a reformulated fuel, you might get say, 22 horsepower gain instead, so it's darn near impossible to say *exactly and precisely* what you're going to get, but let's take a case where you're basically at sea level altitude on good fuel..... I'd expect to gain anywhere from 24-28 hp from the Superchip depending on the fuel being used (enery content, not octane, this assumes 92-93 octane), 14 hp from the use of either the K&N FIPK or the Airaid brand of airbox elimination kit (they're pretty consistent & don't change based on fuel), and anywhere from 10 to as much as 14 hp for the cat-back exhaust, depending on which one you go with. So you could end up with anywhere from about 48 hp gain to a high of perhaps as much as 56 hp from those 3 mods under absolutely ideal conditions.

In round numbers, figure a 45-50 hp gain at sea level on good quality premium gas from those 3 mods combined.

Thanks for your kind words of support by the way, they are greatly appreciated. The only things we provide are the powertrain programming products and services (meaning the Superchip), as we are specialized in this field of powertrain programming only. The other parts, meaning the various airbox elimination kits and the cat-back exhaust systems, are available in several different brands here in the F-150 Online Store, which is where we get those items whenever we need them for one of our vehicles.

I see you have just recently ordered a brand-new Lariat, very nice! That is of course the top-of-the-line F-150, very expensive, and they look like a Cadillac inside, very comfy & luxurious, while still being a tough Ford truck outside, congratulations!

Hope you don't have to wait too long to get the new truck, & Merry Christmas!

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

Hi 5150PhD,

We recommend pulling the Superchip prior to service, but not because the dealership can somehow "zap" it, they can't do anything more to the Superchip along those lines than you yourself can, and not from any warranty concerns, as you have the protection of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

The reason we recommend pulling it prior to service is: with the Superchip attached, they'll still be able to connect your vehicle to the Ford SBDS (Service Bay Diagnostic System) to retrieve any error codes in the event of a problem, but they will also get one additional "false" error code, which is a P0605. That tells the technician that the computer's internal EPROM chip is not functioning, and because it's a surface mount instead of socketed and therefore not replaceable, they think the computer has actually failed and must be replaced. In fact, there is *nothing* wrong and this is *supposed* to happen, as engaging that circuit with the Superchip tells the computer to turn off it's internal EPROM chip, and to seek it's instructions externally, via the Superchip. Conversely, when you remove the Superchip module, that circuit immediately turns back on the factory EPROM chip, just as it is designed to, so this is why we call that P0605 error code a "false" error code, simply because nothing is actually wrong, that is how it is supposed to operate. But most technicians are not aware of exactly how this operates, unless they are using a performance chip on their personal FOrd vehicle perhaps, so instead of you telling each tech what is going to happen and to ignore it when you go in for service, it's easier to just pull the Superchip, as it only takes maybe 30 seconds to remove it in these vehicles.

Now with regards to what happens if Santa just happens to bring you an MAF & TB for Christmas, if it were me, I'd return them and get something that will actually add power. I'm sorry, I know that isn't what you want to hear and please forgive me, so if you want, you can go ahead and install the throttle body, but using an aftermarket MAF usually makes the A/F mixture go lean, and that needs to be compensated for. That's why they will sometimes feel a little "snappier" when you install them, but you cannot safely run them like that in many cases, as it's too lean. Pro-M MAF's for example, like most others, are all over the place in their calibrations, and they can lean out the A/F ratio by as much as 2 full points! Sometimes it will throw a check engine light due to being too lean, and sometimes it won't, if it's "marginally" lean, but it still needs to be compensated for, you don't want to run around too lean of course. So if you get a new TB for Christmas and want to install it, go right ahead, that'll be fine. The MAF (mass airflow meter) I wouldn't recommend using until you get the A/F compensated for, which of course requires a custom program in the Superchip. Sometimes you get lucky and can run the MAF and not be *too* lean, but we're finding these days more often than not that they lean out the A/F to the point that it needs compensation to protect the engine properly.

If you like, you might want to give us a call and we can go over all of this with you in detail, we're happy to help.

Merry Christmas!

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

Hi Harley Guy,

Excellent question!

This issue of doing the battery disconnects as we discuss them here in this section is primarly about changing programs in the computer, and the technique used to drain residual voltage from the system, so you get a complete fresh program load and can thus feel the effects from the Superchip right away, rather than have them come in much more gradually.

However, disconnecting the battery is also a so-called "tuner's trick" anytime you install a new go-fast part, in an effort to allow the computer to go back thru it's basic "adaptation" or "re-learn cycle", for lack of a better term, that happens each time you interrupt power to the ECU long enough. The long trim fuel curve does a bit of adaptation (it's a bit of a misnomer to actually call it "learning"), though we do roughly refer to this period as the "relearn cycle".

OK, the bottom line here is that this really isn't nearly as important when doing things like an FIPK kit or a cat-back exhaust as it is when you change the computer's program. And long-term, it won't make a bit of difference a month later whether you disconnected the battery or not, it's really just a technique to improve short-term, or immediate results with certain changes.

We always do the disconnect anytime we install any new go-fast part, simply so that we can start with a "fresh slate" so to speak, and track mileage like that each time we make a change, it's just habit with us.

To directly answer your question, will it make any real difference in *performance* if you disconnect or not after installing the FIPK kit? I don't think so, though I don't think it's ever been specifically dyno'd in a manner to deliberately isolate that effect on that part, so that's a hunch. But basically, no, it's not going to have any noticeable effect I don't think, as you're not changing the computer's program, you're simply reducing restriction in the air intake tract, so any affect would probably just be related to the long-trim fuel curve's adaptation, which is subtle & minor for a mod like that.

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

Hi Mike Troyer,

I've read several of the posted messages concerning superchips and engine modifications. I wish I had found this forum a few months ago.

I made several modifications to my '00 F150 with the 4.6L engine. K&N filter charger kit, Granatelli MAS, BBK 75 cfm TBI, Poweraid spacer, Gibson headers and CAT back exhaust, and underdrive pulleys. I recently change the rear gear (2wd) ratio from 3:55.1 to 3:73.1 gear. I hate to add this info after reading this message board, but I also have a Jet Stage II chip installed.

I would like to order the Superchip to replace my Jet chip. I have probably added all the other modifications on to compensate the lack of performance of the computer chip.
I interested in increasing the rev limiter, shift points (currently 4800-5000 rpms) and raising the top end limiter (dies @ 95 mph).

Two more changes are in order. First will be 18" wheels with P295/45 R18 tires. I believe this is the same as the F150 Lightning. Later this next summer, I plan to add the MagnaCharger supercharger system.

Can you help me? I'm ready to change that chip ASAP!

 

Hi CrazyaboutF150,

Welcome to F-150 Online, we're glad you joined the rest of us here!

Sure, we can help with that, the best thing to do is to just give us a call at our number listed below. Our normal hours are M-F from 10 am to 7 pm Eastern time. We're closed for Christmas until 10 am Tuesday morning December 26th, but if you call and leave us a voicemail, we'll contact you over this Holiday weekend, and we'll be happy to go over all your mods, the gear ratio change, etc., and get you taken care of.

Merry Christmas!

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 12-24-2000).]

 

I am pretty new to the net & have dealt with many vendors in my short time. Almost all have been really honest & cooperative. The most helpful & honest has been Mike Troyer. Thanks to all and HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

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97 Lariet-sc-4.6-4x off road-auto-3.55 LS-
superchip-K&N-3"
pvc air box mod-Granetelli MAF