BP bad/ Amoco good?
I have noticed that BP gas has been said to be a poor choice for use, especially with the Superchip. Amoco has been said to be a good choice.
I do not know what is happening elsewhere, but here where I live if you pull into a BP station, the pumps now say Amoco on them. I realize that BP and Amoco are now one in the same company, but does this mean that the BP gas is made by Amoco now, or you just won't know what you are getting at the pumps of either station (does Amoco gas at BP mean BP gas at Amoco).
Doug.
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'00 F-150, 4X4, SuperCab, XLT, 5.4L, 3.55LS, Off-Road Pkg., Factory Tonneau, Island Blue/Silver with Dark Graphite Interior.
I do not know what is happening elsewhere, but here where I live if you pull into a BP station, the pumps now say Amoco on them. I realize that BP and Amoco are now one in the same company, but does this mean that the BP gas is made by Amoco now, or you just won't know what you are getting at the pumps of either station (does Amoco gas at BP mean BP gas at Amoco).
Doug.
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'00 F-150, 4X4, SuperCab, XLT, 5.4L, 3.55LS, Off-Road Pkg., Factory Tonneau, Island Blue/Silver with Dark Graphite Interior.
Hi Doug,
Yes, ever since BP bought Amoco some time back, we've been wondering what the net effect was going to be on the traditionally excellent quality of Amoco gas, and the traditionally *terrible* quality of BP gas, at least, here in this country. And BP is advertising heavy on TV right now, telling people they have changed formulations to a cleaner fuel, etc., etc. To date, I haven't seen anything that changes my opinion of either fuel, though this is a time of transition for both companies, and what will ultimately happen is anyone's guess.
For me, it was a strange marriage of one of the best gasolines for *decades* (Amoco), and one of the worst, BP. I don't know if this is all something to attempt to improve the image of BP gasolines, or if they are really integrating both companies to improve both, combining refining capacity & policies, etc., or what.
Only time will tell, & I'm sorry I can't give you a better answer.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
Yes, ever since BP bought Amoco some time back, we've been wondering what the net effect was going to be on the traditionally excellent quality of Amoco gas, and the traditionally *terrible* quality of BP gas, at least, here in this country. And BP is advertising heavy on TV right now, telling people they have changed formulations to a cleaner fuel, etc., etc. To date, I haven't seen anything that changes my opinion of either fuel, though this is a time of transition for both companies, and what will ultimately happen is anyone's guess.
For me, it was a strange marriage of one of the best gasolines for *decades* (Amoco), and one of the worst, BP. I don't know if this is all something to attempt to improve the image of BP gasolines, or if they are really integrating both companies to improve both, combining refining capacity & policies, etc., or what.
Only time will tell, & I'm sorry I can't give you a better answer.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
Its called business. I can bet that the Amoco you used comes from the same refining plant it used to... Same plant, same trucks, same pump, different management....
I wonder quite a bit about all this hype about gasoline. I live close to a tanker farm and notice Sheetz, Exxon, No name, etc... Coming out of the same farm... Are they all going to different tanks?
I wonder about this sometimes.
Americans have been fooled by the oil companies for MANY years.... They've done a GREAT job convincing poeple to use the more expensive "high octane" fuels...Leading consumers to believe that higher octane means a more explosive fuel... Will make your Escort run like a Vette!
Just go to the coffee machine at your office and ask what people drink.... Quite a few will tell you they "drink the high octane stuff only!"
High octane coffee should yeild less energy, right? Less energy tells me less caffeine!
Try and tell people that you only drink the "High octane stuff!" You know decaf!
They'll look at you like your nuts... "You got it backwards buddy!"
I wonder quite a bit about all this hype about gasoline. I live close to a tanker farm and notice Sheetz, Exxon, No name, etc... Coming out of the same farm... Are they all going to different tanks?
I wonder about this sometimes.
Americans have been fooled by the oil companies for MANY years.... They've done a GREAT job convincing poeple to use the more expensive "high octane" fuels...Leading consumers to believe that higher octane means a more explosive fuel... Will make your Escort run like a Vette!
Just go to the coffee machine at your office and ask what people drink.... Quite a few will tell you they "drink the high octane stuff only!"
High octane coffee should yeild less energy, right? Less energy tells me less caffeine!
Try and tell people that you only drink the "High octane stuff!" You know decaf!
They'll look at you like your nuts... "You got it backwards buddy!"
Lets clear up this octane issue once and for all. Using higher Octane fuel in a non modified vehicle will not noticeable improve its performance. If you drive a vehicle that recommends high octane then it has been modified to use it. The parameters on today's engine computers are set to run on 85+ octane. I do not know to how high an octane they are set to but rest assured it is not 92. Ford knows and I am willing to bet Superchips knows. If our trucks were set to a higher octane we could get more HP just by running a higher Octane. That is the function of the chip. Use the higher octane to increase the power.
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd 3.55LSD
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks,
BFG 285/75 R16 MTs,
Borla Cat Back, Headman Headers,
Modified Air Cleaner Outlet Tube
and air box, Ported Throttle body,
Shortened MAF sensor tower,
K&N air filter,
Superchips
[This message has been edited by JMC (edited 12-11-2000).]
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd 3.55LSD
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks,
BFG 285/75 R16 MTs,
Borla Cat Back, Headman Headers,
Modified Air Cleaner Outlet Tube
and air box, Ported Throttle body,
Shortened MAF sensor tower,
K&N air filter,
Superchips

[This message has been edited by JMC (edited 12-11-2000).]
Concerning the recent discussions here about fuel brands and quality, I was employed by one of the major oil company’s a few years ago, in their pipeline division. The majority of the products leaving our refinery pasted through the pipeline and we were connected to about six other refineries as well. Everything entering our system was tested and lab samples kept. Depending on the source and past problems test was run at least twice during each shipment even from our own refinery.
It is very common for the majors to trade products depending on costs, maintenance schedules and contractual commitments. Blending additives, including the detergent package, was one of the final steps before shipment from the refinery. Fuel could meet the octane requirement but depending on the specs additives could be left out. Our super was 92; two of the other companies were 91 so we never traded super with them. Once we got a deal, below our costs including transportation, on a supertanker load of 92 super from a major’s refinery in Malaysia. The point is what comes out of the pump will usually meet that company’s specs, whatever they are, but others could have refined it.
We refined two blends of each grade of fuel depending on the final delivery location of our own stations, a desert and a coastal blend. Fuel was supplied regularly to four different states. The desert had the highest energy content and seasonally there was a summer and winter blend with the summer being the best stuff.You got what you needed or paid for, but no more.
Sorry for going on.....
It is very common for the majors to trade products depending on costs, maintenance schedules and contractual commitments. Blending additives, including the detergent package, was one of the final steps before shipment from the refinery. Fuel could meet the octane requirement but depending on the specs additives could be left out. Our super was 92; two of the other companies were 91 so we never traded super with them. Once we got a deal, below our costs including transportation, on a supertanker load of 92 super from a major’s refinery in Malaysia. The point is what comes out of the pump will usually meet that company’s specs, whatever they are, but others could have refined it.
We refined two blends of each grade of fuel depending on the final delivery location of our own stations, a desert and a coastal blend. Fuel was supplied regularly to four different states. The desert had the highest energy content and seasonally there was a summer and winter blend with the summer being the best stuff.You got what you needed or paid for, but no more.
Sorry for going on.....
Getting back to the BP/Amoco deal. Just to let you know that BP also bought out the HUCK'S chain (popular in the midwest). Other one of the worst gas in the area, and put up amoco sign on the pumps only. I will just stick with Quiktrip gas.



