can someone list everything a superchip will do for a 99 f150 5.4 supercab flareside lariat?
check out my truck www.geocities.com/thepyromaniackid

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1999 F-150 Supercab Styleside Lariat 5.4L V8
lowered 2/4, 18inch Wheels, Navigator Front End, Factory 2tone Red on top of Gold, Metallic Flake Ghost Flames in the gold
Stock CD player, Rockford Fosgate Punch 250a Amplifier, 2 RF Punch DXL 8inch Subwoofers, 2 Kenwood Tweeters in the front doors
By Christmas: Euro tail lights, Superchip, 3/5 drop
By my 17th birthday (March 23rd): White Face Guages, HOPEFULLY A SUPERCHARGER PACKAGE

www.geocities.com/thepyromaniackid
some quick photos
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Hi Pyro,

The Superchip is going to add a maximum of 28 hp & 46 lbs./ft. of torque to the 1999 F-150 5.4 motor. It will also firm up the transmission's shift characteristics, removing upshift & downshift delays, transitional spark retards that reduce engine power during & just after upshifts, etc. The way the upshifts are calibrated is so that the vehicle can still be driven in inclement weather without having to worry about a too-stiff upshift making the vehicle "swap ends" if you have an upshift in the middle of a turn in the rain, for example. The shifts will get progressively firmer as you give it progressively more throttle, just as they should.

We also fix some areas where the factory program robs power by premature torque converter lockups on full-throttle, etc.

The top speed limiter is removed as well.

The Superchip is the only one for these vehicles that adds power not just at full-throttle, but at *every* throttle position, so you will have more power from 1000 rpm on up, regardless of throttle position. It is also 50-state emissions certified.

As far as how your truck is actually going to *feel* as a result of installing the Superchip, you're going to feel like you have about 10%-12% "more motor", is one way to put it, as that is what the Superchip is adding in terms of the increase in horsepower, about 10%-12% more peak hp.

Thanks to the changes in the automatic transmissions programming, it will also feel like your powertrain is a bit more directly connected to your right foot.

We realize that you are new here to the boards, and have seen your many posts in other sections, asking about superchargers, etc. F-150 Online is a great resource of information on your F-150, so we're glad to see you're enjoying the site!

If you'd like further details about the Superchip for your application, please feel free to give us a call at our number below, we're always happy to help. We can also go over some points about the various supercharger kits on the market with you if you like, as we work with virtually all the major supercharger manufacturers providing custom programs for their kits in these, and many other vehicles.

Good luck with your truck, from your signature line it looks like you already have a very nice vehicle, especially for a 16-year old, you're very lucky to have such a nice truck with all those mods!

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

Be carefull....

Read Mike's comments carefully.

Softer shifts mean more control on slipperier surfaces. Can you sue them if you spin out in a corner on ice, snow, rain? Can I sue you for mods to your truck that make it "less safe than the manufacturer intended" after you spin out and hit my kid?

Same thing with removing the top speed limiter. May (I say MAY)make you look irresponsible if you have to answer some "reasonable and prudent" tests in court after a mishap.

Delayed locking of the Torque Converter translates into more slippage, more heat, more wear on critical transmission parts.

Harder shifts come from higher internal line pressure. Harder shifts are less desireable than shorter shifts. A chip cannot get rid of the overlap between shifts, only increase the force used to make the shift.

I had a Lincoln MkVIII (4.6 280 HP DOHC V8) with a similar 4R70W tranny. The tranny could not handle all the power fed by a chipped motor (don't know how many HP after the chip). It fried the second gear clutch.

Also, remember....Premium costs about 15 cents more a gallon, and at 15 MPG, that adds up.

So, when you ask what is the upside, you need to conside the trade-offs. I will never believe a chip is good for my vehicle because if it were, no more than it costs to put that program in the computer in the first place, Ford would do it as "Stock".


Yes, I had a chip. No I am not happy with the outcome. Your opinions and mileage may vary.

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Greg
'96 Triumph Thunderbird
'99 Ford F150 XLT SC 5.4
'00 Lincoln LS8
Wichita

 

I just noticed...this kid is 16 years old.

You want to take away his speed limiter?



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Greg
'96 Triumph Thunderbird
'99 Ford F150 XLT SC 5.4
'00 Lincoln LS8
Wichita

 

yes im 16,
i am aware that things brake easier with more power that is common sense
and i am going to get a supercarger anyways
but u have a good opinion
contrast and conflicting sides are good
and i have only hit the speed limiter once to see when it would hit

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1999 F-150 Supercab Styleside Lariat 5.4L V8
lowered 2/4, 18inch Wheels, Navigator Front End, Factory 2tone Red on top of Gold, Metallic Flake Ghost Flames in the gold
Stock CD player, Rockford Fosgate Punch 250a Amplifier, 2 RF Punch DXL 8inch Subwoofers, 2 Kenwood Tweeters in the front doors
By Christmas: Euro tail lights, Superchip, 3/5 drop
By my 17th birthday (March 23rd): White Face Guages, HOPEFULLY A SUPERCHARGER PACKAGE
www.geocities.com/thepyromaniackid
some quick photos
www.geocities.com/thepyromaniackid



[This message has been edited by ThePyroManiacKid (edited 10-13-2000).]

 

Just out of curiosity what does the chip do to the MPG? If it increases the power would it not use more gas? or does it increase the shifting effieciency?

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2001 F150 Lariat SuperCrew 4x4 with 5.4L V8, 3.55 Diff
Options: Class III Trailer Towing Group, 4x4 Skid Plates, Electonic Shift on the Fly, 17-inch 10-spoke cast aluminum wheels, Moonroof, sliding rear window, bed extender, keyless & remote entry, cab steps, Line-X bedliner

 

Tadashi,

Remember..more power does not mean more fuel is used. Premium fuel has a slightly higher power content than standard 87 Octane fuel and the Superchip adjusts the timing so our engines can tap into this power. It also has other power adjustments as Mike mentioned above. The shifting improvements also adds very slightly to mpg improvements. I expierenced mpg improvements in my last F-150 with a Superchip..once I stopped "superfooting" it (heavy throttle) and drove it 'normally'.

If the truck is driven with a heavy foot to use the increased power, like WOT runs... MPG will certainly go down because it is now using more fuel to do the same job in a shorter amount of time.



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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, Superchip, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55 rear, class III towing package with super engine cooling/Auxilary transmission cooling HD package, Heavy duty shocks, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, factory leather wrapped steering wheel, FORD bedliner, FORD black tubular cab steps, K&N air filter, mar-hyde rubberized undercoating, Modine climate filtration system, Bugflector II, Mobil 1 oil and filter

 

Greg,

I disagree with the vast majority of what you've just posted here, which is much the same as the last time you came on here making these lame claims. The chip can't do anything about the "overlap" between shifts?!? What are you calling "overlap"? It removes the shift delay signal, thus reducing *slippage*, the #1 killer of automatic tranmissions. The increase in line pressure in the Superchip is in fact very small, there are numerous things that are changed to reduce the amount of slippage, it isn't all line pressure, or mostly line pressure, etc., line pressure is just one of numerous aspects of automatic transmission programming that we're changing, and for the better. We have Ford employees using the product who build these transmissions, and they feel quite differently than you do about the Superchip, and are in a far better positon to know what the actual effects are, shot-term and long term. They are well aware of the impact of slippage, and thank us for doing what we do for their personal vehicles.

We're well aware of the posts you've made here before about the Superchip, and the fact that you want to blame it for your transmission problems. In fact, the 4R70W has a rather checkered service history in the Lincoln Mark 8, and having owned 3 of them personally, I can certainly attest to that. There are numerous TSB's out on that transmssion, and specifically in the Mark 8, as we went thru the last time you posted this nonsense here. The shift solenoids that are in their 8th revision, the TSB's about vastly elevated fluid temperatures and the retrofit auxilliary cooler that has been installed on countless examples of this vehicle under another TSB, the damage elsewhere in the transmission cause by failed shift solenoids ranging from glazed clutch packs to shattered rear drums, etc. etc. The service record of this transmission in this vehicle is well-documented in the public record, and a quick glance thru Alldata's records will show these TSB's and myriad of problems with the 4R70W in the Mark 8. If you get a "good one", they will take an amazing amount of power and abuse, these 4R70W's just need the right parts, like any other major part, its quality will ultimately be determined by the quality of the individual components, some of which have been questionable in this tranny. Say, did you know what Ford calls the warpage of the valve bodies in the 4R70W's in the MN12 platform? They call it the "potato chip effect".

The Superchip has *never* damaged any of the transmissions in any of my 3 personal Lincoln Mark 8's, nor has it ever damaged any of our many customers with Lincoln Mark 8's. Not one. Not one out of all those Mark 8's, isn't that odd, even including the custom supercharged Mark 8's that we've done. If the Superchip had any tendency to cause damage, we would have seen it happen in at least a few of all those Mark 8's, you would think, but instead, we haven't seen the Superchip cause damage in *any* of them.

As a matter of fact, these automatic transmissions tend to last *longer* service lives with the Superchip, thanks to the reduced slippage.

We've had this conversation before here, and I would have to see the proof with my own two eyes before I will *ever* believe that your Superchip actually damaged your transmission, given the service record of these transmissions specifically in the MN12 platform.

By the way, nobody is trying to take the speed limiter of a 16-year old away. He asked what the chip did, and we told him. Nobody is trying to chase down a 16-year old kid and tell him he needs to be driving at triple-digit speeds, nor are we responsible for what somebody who purchases this product knowing full well what it does, should they decide to operate their vehicle in an irresponsible manner. He asked to be told what the Superchip did, and he got his answer, plain and simple.

I suppose FoMoCO would be responsible if you took your Mark 8 up to it's 130 mph stock top speed limiter and had an accident? It wouldn't be *your* responsibility for failing to keep your vehicle under control at high speeds, or even for driving those high speeds in the first place, it would have to be the automakers fault for building a vehicle capable of attaining the 130 mph top speed of the Lincoln Mark 8 bone-stock, right? It couldn't possibly be the responsibility of the driver to control their own conduct, could it? Nah, that would be holding those who are truly at fault responsible for their own conduct, now wouldn't that be downright un-American.

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 10-15-2000).]

 

right on SuperChips_Distributor
i mean what is the real use of going in the triple digits?
Mine might see it but only on a track in the 1/4 mile
and yes i did get all the answers i needed
i am definetly getting a superchip soon!!

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1999 F-150 Supercab Styleside Lariat 5.4L V8 3.55 gears, Rhino Bedliner
lowered 2/3, 18inch Wheels, Navigator Front End, Factory 2tone Red on top of Gold, Metallic Flake Ghost Flames in the gold
Stock CD player, Rockford Fosgate Punch 250a Amplifier, 2 RF Punch DXL 8inch Subwoofers, 2 Kenwood Midranges in the front doors
By Christmas: Euro tail lights, Superchip, 3/5 drop
By my 17th birthday (March 23rd): White Face Guages, HOPEFULLY A SUPERCHARGER PACKAGE


some quick photos
www.geocities.com/thepyromaniackid

 

Hi Tadashi,

The Superchip programs the engine specifically to take advantage of premium gas' increased anti-knock properties, so most of these vehicles tend to pick up a little bit better fuel mileage as a result. In other words, it's really a sort of accidental by-product of the tuning process.

To give you some numbers, what has been reported back here by F-150 owners using Superchips, in the V-8 automatics, they report back gains on average of 1.5 to as much as 2.0 mpg, sometimes a bit more, when not using a lot of heavy throttle. The manuals pick up a little bit more, usually ranging 2.5 - 3.0 mpg on average, thanks to manual transmissions taking less power to operate than automatics.

The key is how is the vehicle actually driven, either with or without the Superchip. If you drive it like you hate it, to quote an old drag racer, then of course your mileage will suffer, as we all know. But anytime you're not using a lot of heavy throttle, you should get better gas mileage with the Superchip than without it, just to give you a rough idea.

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

Hi Pyro,

Well, that's fine, we'll be happy to help whenever you're ready.

I'm sure you're mature enough to know how to drive responsibly, and not get into trouble with that very nice truck you have there.

Have fun & be careful,

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

thanx distributor
I'll probally order it from ya'll if i can
and i know wat happens wen u wreck
even if its not ur fault ur outta car for a while
wen i wrecked it it was their fault and it took longer to deal out the insurance an then longer to do it all with the navigator front
more than a month on foot SUCKED!!!

 

Wichita_Greg,

If you are driving so fast that on a slippery surface a quick shift makes you loose control then I respectfully submit that you are over driving your abilities. I also suggest that you might have the incorrect tires for your driving conditions or simply that you lack the proper coordination to be driving.

At 15¢ per gallon and an average of 15 mpg it will cost you $10.00 more per 1000 miles driven, and at 10 mpg it will cost you $15.00 per 1000 miles driven. No big deal if you own a truck.

Neal the HP freak has the 4R70W in his 99 XLT. The truck is chipped and with all his mods he is well over 325 hp. He even added a shift kit and beats the living snot out of it. ( it even chirps in 3rd VBG ) The tranny is still alive today which goes to prove that the tranny you got might have been a lemon. I am sorry that your 4R70W didn't last but I would suggest you take it up with Ford and not blame the chip. If you need help with Ford I am sure there are many on this board who would be more than glad to suggest a few ways to handle it.

Kindest regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd 3.55LSD
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks,
Borla Cat Back, Headman Headers,
Modified Air Cleaner Outlet Tube
and air box, Shortened MAF sensor tower,
K&N air filter,
Superchips





[This message has been edited by JMC (edited 10-16-2000).]

 

Hey everybody....

Don't take it personal.....

Interesting to note on the reply just above that he put in a "real shift kit".

A shift kit is superior to increasing line pressure by a chip because you can change the amout of time the gears overlap each other for quicker shifts, not harder shifts.

Anyways...y'all do what you want, just remember, most folks who sell stuff will claim all sorts of good will come of it. There is always a downside.

I've only made one other post about my Mark VIII and chip, and it was similar to this one. My Mark's tranny could not stand up to the power of a chipped DOHC 4.6. For whatever reason.

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Greg
'96 Triumph Thunderbird
'99 Ford F150 XLT SC 5.4
'00 Lincoln LS8
Wichita

 

From reading the web page it seems pretty plug and play. What is everyone's experience in installation? I have read that they are reprogrammable. How is this done or is this a different chip?

Superchips_Distributor - How will this affect the so called "learning shifter" in the new F150?

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2001 F150 Lariat SuperCrew 4x4 with 5.4L V8, 3.55 Diff
Options: Class III Trailer Towing Group, 4x4 Skid Plates, Electonic Shift on the Fly, 17-inch 10-spoke cast aluminum wheels, Moonroof, sliding rear window, bed extender, keyless & remote entry, cab steps, Line-X bedliner