Superchip returned for tune-up
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Superchip returned for tune-up
Well after working with,"read as pumping him for information" 
, Mike T. for several days. I decided to removed my Superchip and FedEx'd it back to its'place of birth Longwood FL for reprogramming. The chip in its standard form really works fine for most people, but I really wanted to work on boosting the shift firmness. I want to pull as much out of the transmission, as can reasonably be expected without making internal changes to it. I'll probably lose a lot of part throttle smoothness. But ocasionally, when safe to do so, smoking the rear tires and then hearing them chirp on the 1-2 up-shift is like traveling in a time warp for me, it's the easiest way to knock 15 or 20 years off my attitude. Even if just for a breif moment. I know it's really silly to do, but it does put a big smile on my face 
. Tell me am I crazy, or are their others like me? Thanks again for all your help Mike.
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Bob P.
99 F-150 XLT 120" w/b
5.4L w/ASP underdrive pulleys, Superchip, Airaid system,Poweraid TB spacer,and Borla Turbo muffler.
, Mike T. for several days. I decided to removed my Superchip and FedEx'd it back to its'place of birth Longwood FL for reprogramming. The chip in its standard form really works fine for most people, but I really wanted to work on boosting the shift firmness. I want to pull as much out of the transmission, as can reasonably be expected without making internal changes to it. I'll probably lose a lot of part throttle smoothness. But ocasionally, when safe to do so, smoking the rear tires and then hearing them chirp on the 1-2 up-shift is like traveling in a time warp for me, it's the easiest way to knock 15 or 20 years off my attitude. Even if just for a breif moment. I know it's really silly to do, but it does put a big smile on my face . Tell me am I crazy, or are their others like me? Thanks again for all your help Mike. ------------------
Bob P.
99 F-150 XLT 120" w/b
5.4L w/ASP underdrive pulleys, Superchip, Airaid system,Poweraid TB spacer,and Borla Turbo muffler.
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Bob: If you "really" want that type of feeling then you should have bought a 5speed manual and added the superchip to it I love mine and if I'm having a bad day, I just go for a drive. And if you say you've just got to have the 5.4, well it comes in manual too (F250) Sooooo
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I love mine and if I'm having a bad day, I just go for a drive. And if you say you've just got to have the 5.4, well it comes in manual too (F250) Sooooo------------------
97F150 XLT SC 4x4 Flairside 4.6 V8 5sp Dk Toreador Red, 3.55LS
ARE tonneau cover, p255/70rx16 tires (came w/235), Superchip
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From: Virginia
Hi Bob,
Hey, no sweat! I like how you put it, taking 15-20 years off your attitude, very well said! It's my fault for not really understanding just how hard you wanted your upshifts in the first place, otherwise we would have done a custom program to start off with, like you originally wanted! I talked with Clinton today, and Rob is doing the work, and they're going to push it up for you, so it should be finished by Monday, and you should have it back on Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest.
Have fun,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
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Hey, no sweat! I like how you put it, taking 15-20 years off your attitude, very well said!
It's my fault for not really understanding just how hard you wanted your upshifts in the first place, otherwise we would have done a custom program to start off with, like you originally wanted! I talked with Clinton today, and Rob is doing the work, and they're going to push it up for you, so it should be finished by Monday, and you should have it back on Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest.Have fun,
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Dear ps398,
Actually, with what we're doing, his tranny should hold up just fine. Shifting harder with as little line pressure as it makes in stock firm won't hurt anything. Like I said to Bob when we were talking on the phone about this, I've run manual valvebody automatics making 4-5 times as much line pressure, and never had any failure of any kind. Up to a point, in general, the harder an automatic hits the gears, the longer it lives, from reducion of slippage.
I used to run so much line pressure that if I upshifted into 2nd with my foot off the gas, it would shear off the rear u-joint, leaving the driveshaft hanging on the ground!
This is actually a good point that you raised, ps398. The point being, it's not how much peak horsepower a vehicle can make, or how hard the tranny can shift when made to do so that shortens component life. It's how we actually operate and maintain them that matters far more.
Now if Bob was installing a shift kit and increasing line pressure dramatically, and then driving it like he hated it frequently, that combination might well give cause for concern, but with what we're doing, he should be just fine.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
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Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Actually, with what we're doing, his tranny should hold up just fine. Shifting harder with as little line pressure as it makes in stock firm won't hurt anything. Like I said to Bob when we were talking on the phone about this, I've run manual valvebody automatics making 4-5 times as much line pressure, and never had any failure of any kind. Up to a point, in general, the harder an automatic hits the gears, the longer it lives, from reducion of slippage.
I used to run so much line pressure that if I upshifted into 2nd with my foot off the gas, it would shear off the rear u-joint, leaving the driveshaft hanging on the ground!
This is actually a good point that you raised, ps398. The point being, it's not how much peak horsepower a vehicle can make, or how hard the tranny can shift when made to do so that shortens component life. It's how we actually operate and maintain them that matters far more.
Now if Bob was installing a shift kit and increasing line pressure dramatically, and then driving it like he hated it frequently, that combination might well give cause for concern, but with what we're doing, he should be just fine.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
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Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
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Mike, I used to do the same thing you did with the old glides, TH400, and C6s. I wasn't sure how much line pressure Bob would need for what he wanted. Bob, Keep us updated on how this works out for you some of us may want to do the same thing.
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Hey I was just thinking about this the other day. I was wondering if I could upgrade my superchip or have it modified. Can some one please get me in touch with the person that can help me get this done to mine? I'm sure the Superchips_Distributor can help!
Much Thanks
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Hello Mike, I too called Superchips Today and I must say I'm very pleased by how promptly my chip will be reprogramed. They must love you down there at Superchips Mike to push this one through so fast at your request. Thank you for making all the arrangements to get this worked out. I'm really looking forward to my chips return.
(( For anyone out there that is still undecided about buying a chip, or where to buy one. Let me offer the following advice and comment: As to which chip to buy Superchips is my hands down first choice, this in not the first Superchip I have purchased. I'm a repeat buyer of Superchips products for good reason. This is however the first item I have ever purchased from Mike T. and I can say without hesitation, Mike will be my first stop when I need another chip! The opportunity to purchase a first class product, and receive first class service before and after the sale is rarely found at this price point. Superchips and Mike T. is certainly a winning combination. )) Thanks Mike, I'll keep you and the members of this forum posted as to the results.
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Bob P.
99 F-150 XLT 120" w/b
5.4L w/ASP underdrive pulleys, Superchip, Airaid system,Poweraid TB spacer,and Borla Turbo muffler.
(( For anyone out there that is still undecided about buying a chip, or where to buy one. Let me offer the following advice and comment: As to which chip to buy Superchips is my hands down first choice, this in not the first Superchip I have purchased. I'm a repeat buyer of Superchips products for good reason. This is however the first item I have ever purchased from Mike T. and I can say without hesitation, Mike will be my first stop when I need another chip! The opportunity to purchase a first class product, and receive first class service before and after the sale is rarely found at this price point. Superchips and Mike T. is certainly a winning combination. )) Thanks Mike, I'll keep you and the members of this forum posted as to the results.
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Bob P.
99 F-150 XLT 120" w/b
5.4L w/ASP underdrive pulleys, Superchip, Airaid system,Poweraid TB spacer,and Borla Turbo muffler.
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Hello Tina, I would have purchased a 5 speed if that option would have been available, but as it stands now the auto is the only transmission offered with the 5.4L engine.
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Bob P.
99 F-150 XLT 120" w/b
5.4L w/ASP underdrive pulleys, Superchip, Airaid system,Poweraid TB spacer,and Borla Turbo muffler.
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Dear ps398,
Ahhh, so then you *know* how it feels to have those kinds of shifts. Nothing like it, is there? When we were running those manual valve bodies, (727 TF's, C6's, TH 400's, etc.) we used a *lot* more line pressure than what Bob will have in his Superchip. Just as a reminder to anyone reading this who may not know, the Superchip can only dial in as much line pressure as the transmission is physically capable of making; if you need more line pressure than *that*, you have to modify the transmission with a shift kit, etc., so it can produce more line pressure.
It used to be common to run 400-600 line pressure on the street; nowadays, most late-model Ford automatics don't make much over 100 PSI. The 4R70W in my Lincoln Mark 8 made only 96 PSI stock! And now it barks the tires on the 2-3 upshift @ 95 mph, thanks to a Transgo shift kit, a Superchip, and a set of Bosch Platinum+4's.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
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Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Ahhh, so then you *know* how it feels to have those kinds of shifts. Nothing like it, is there? When we were running those manual valve bodies, (727 TF's, C6's, TH 400's, etc.) we used a *lot* more line pressure than what Bob will have in his Superchip. Just as a reminder to anyone reading this who may not know, the Superchip can only dial in as much line pressure as the transmission is physically capable of making; if you need more line pressure than *that*, you have to modify the transmission with a shift kit, etc., so it can produce more line pressure.
It used to be common to run 400-600 line pressure on the street; nowadays, most late-model Ford automatics don't make much over 100 PSI. The 4R70W in my Lincoln Mark 8 made only 96 PSI stock! And now it barks the tires on the 2-3 upshift @ 95 mph, thanks to a Transgo shift kit, a Superchip, and a set of Bosch Platinum+4's.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
