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Old Sep 27, 1999 | 09:14 PM
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Unhappy removed superchip and better performance?

Like everybody in this list i removed the superchip from my truck two weeks ago so i could reinstall it and feel the difference again. Well, to my surprise my truck feels quicker not faster and i think it is more responsive. Also, my mpg did not change or decrease( 3 fuel tanks). On the other hand i can feel that shifting now is not as firm as with the chip. My question to anybody is this, Am i feeling this because the computer is still programed with superchips program? Has anyone experienced anything like this? Do i have one of those problematic computer( code cfk2)?. by the way there was no change in H.P because i never felt there was an increase after i installed it. I will contact Mike T. and ask him about this too. thank you for any info.

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Old Sep 27, 1999 | 09:22 PM
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Vel,
I have experienced the same thing. After installing the chip, very minimal power gains , slightly better shifting.

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Old Sep 27, 1999 | 09:52 PM
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You should read my post in Engines under Octane Challenge...there was a story in USA today that says our trucks run better MPG and higher horsepower with high octane gas. This may be what youre feeling.

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Old Sep 27, 1999 | 10:20 PM
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When you removed your chip did you disconnect the battery for about an hour or so? It takes a while for the chip to clear itself and go back into a relearn mode.

Try it - who knows?

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Old Sep 28, 1999 | 12:08 AM
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Thanks for the response guys but i forgot to mention the following: i have been using 89 octane since i removed the chip(truck is running great).Also, i disconnected the battery for at least one hour. I already e-mail M. Troyer and i will wait to see what he has got to say about this.
Again, thank you.

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99 xlt sc,4.6 2w.d.,gibson catback,
superchip,
rsx shocks,
hellwig sway bar,
3" front lift,275/70/16 scorpions,
sst soft bed cover.

FUTURE MODS:4.10 GEARS, GORHINO BRUSH GUARD AND HELLA LIGHTS.
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Old Sep 28, 1999 | 02:34 PM
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Well, not "everybody on this list" has done this, though about a half-dozen or so people have commented on doing this, I.E., removing the Superchip for at least a week, and then plug it back it again, over the past few months. The truth of the matter is that only a good dyno is going to give you accurate before and after numbers, nobody can tell horsepower numbers in the seat of your pants, though most people can feel the better throttle response, of course. There is no way that you are going to have better performance using the factory program and *any* type of gasoline, as compared to the Superchip using premium, unless something has changed, or something has failed, etc. What I would suggest is if possible, to do some back-to-back drag strip runs. Do the first one stock, the second one with the Superchip, and the third run stock again, with a 30 minute cool-down time in between runs to stabilize powertrain temps. that way, you can see just exactly what the Superchip is doing for you, instead of guessing by a seat of the pants feel. Just a suggestion, as this is a great way to document the gains of the Superchip.

Another thing that cannot happen is for the performance of any Superchip to "fall off", or be reduced, as long as a good quality premium gasoline is used, and the vehicle is basically "healthy". Can't happen, it's basic physics. One thing that *can* happen, and does, is for the driver to get used to the power of the Superchip over time, that is perfectly normal. Happens to me all the time in our vehicles, I get used to them pretty quickly! But that doesn't mean it has stopped working, as the only way that can happen is if something changes or fails.

If you like, one thing you might want to do is to send your Superchip module into Superchips, and have them take a look at your program to see if there is any way they can get more performance out of it for you, without causing detonation of course, that's the key. If you want to do that, you can just give them a call at 888-227-2447, and they'll take care of it for you. Or, please feel free to give me a call, and I'll be happy to discuss this at length and in much more detail than what typing here on the F150online message boards lends itself to. I did get your email and responded to it this morning. Another option is to email me your phone number, if you like, and I'll be happy to call you, so it's on our dime.

One other point here is that we also have to have realistic expectations. The Superchip is going to give you a 10%-12% increase in peak horsepower. That's enough to be able to feel, but it's certainly not enough to turn a 5000 lb. truck into a firebreathing monster, that would take another 150 horsepower! What we suggest in these situations is to drive it with the Superchip for a few weeks, so you have a good feel for how it responds. Then remove it for a week or so, so you know how that feels. Then put the Superchip back in, and of course do like you mentioned you had been doing, to disconnect the battery each time you do this. So far, everyone who has followed this procedure has noticed the difference, just as you did when you first ordered and installed it, from your emails to me back then.

Again, please feel free to call me, or, have me call you, to go over what you are experiencing in detail. We're happy to help any way we can, as always!

Our bests to all,

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Old Sep 28, 1999 | 03:07 PM
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If the superchip gives about 20 more horsepower, is that 20 from what Ford publishes? If it is, I can get that by using premium (5 to 7 hp) and a good K&N (10 to 15 hp).

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Old Sep 29, 1999 | 12:50 AM
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gentleman...gentleman...(gals too..oopps). Mike is right! Take it to the drags! Trust me I have...spent most of this summer with a brand new 5.4L, modified with the chip, exhaust, airaid, and from time to time racing fuel (104 octane). AND it is most assuredly faster. How much? Try this...Mine is a supercab up against a new lightning and low and behold I scared the gibbers out of him beating him off the light and holding him off to the finish, it was close but I did it. And afterwards he was a bit of a snot (embarrassed more than likely).
My point is I raced with just the modified exhaust just after the first week of owner ship and yet incresed in speed and lowered my time when I installed the chip shortly after that. And the week I installed the chip my wife and I went to the mountains via the freeway and then the twisties up to Mt. St. Helens, we avaeraged 19.3mpg that day...WOW!
And Mike also made a good point, you get used to it. I rode in my friends stock 5.4L SC and could tell the difference just from the "seat of my pants". Of course he is puzzled that mine is SO different than his...hum I wonder why!
Now I've been away from my truck since Aug 9th (I'm in NM now and wont get the family and truck till Nov 4th down here) so it should be very interesting to see how it drives. My work truck is a 1999 4.6L 4x2 standard cab long bed. It should feel like "heaven" to be drivin' "Big Red" again.

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Old Sep 29, 1999 | 08:51 PM
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I installed the superchip back on last night and let me tell you that now more than ever i am sure my truck performs better without it. I now the shifting is better but the truck feels more responsive without the chip. I am at fault on this because when i first got the chip this is exactly what i felt. At the time i thought it was me expecting too much and also i liked the firmer shifts. Well, i now will talk to M.Troyer and see if i can send the chip back for inspection. By the way i am not saying that the chip stopped working out of the blue, i am saying i did not follow my instincts the first time around. I am sure that Mike will help on this and everything will turn out fine. i will keep you posted.

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99 xlt sc,4.6 2w.d.,gibson catback,
superchip,
rsx shocks,
hellwig sway bar,
3" front lift,275/70/16 scorpions,
sst soft bed cover.

FUTURE MODS:4.10 GEARS, GORHINO BRUSH GUARD AND HELLA LIGHTS.
From: Los Angeles, CA


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