I don't remember the person's name, and I can't find the topic on here anymore, but I have a comment.

Not too long ago a new member to the site posted a message advertising Superchips from his company. Lots of comments were made, and he was basically ran off the site. As I said, I can't find the thread, but I remember the webmaster stating something about no blatant advertising on the message boards. (Please correct me with the exact quote.)

Yet, when Mike Troyer has a thread called "How To Order Your Superchip", nothing is said at all. This just doesn't seem fair to me.

I have nothing against Mike or his company. Mike is an active and informative member of the message boards. But I think we could have very easily "ran off" someone who could have very well contributed just as much...


I guess I now see why this was done, since F150Online now has direct ordering of the Superchip from Mike via an on-line form.


Comments anyone?



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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC

1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS

Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust w/ Dual Flowmaster 40's-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover

 

I think his name was ddracing. Looks like it has been deleted.

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'97 XLT Reg. Cab, 4.2V6, 5spd, Superchipped, K&N Air Filter, Lund Deflector, Dash Mat, MagnaFlow Muffler, Hellwig Rear Sway Bar, Edelbrock Shocks, Duraliner, Extang Saber Tonneau, Bell-Tech 2" Rear Drop, Amer. Rac. Atlas Wheels Clad in 275/60/17 Eagle GTII. Likes straightaways, loves twisties.

 

Thanks Frank. Yes, that was the name, and I found one of the threads in question.

https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/000324.html



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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC

1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS

Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust w/ Dual Flowmaster 40's-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover

 

Here is another:

https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/000333.html


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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC

1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS

Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust w/ Dual Flowmaster 40's-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover

 

Guess it hasn't been deleted. I stand corrected.

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'97 XLT Reg. Cab, 4.2V6, 5spd, Superchipped, K&N Air Filter, Lund Deflector, Dash Mat, MagnaFlow Muffler, Hellwig Rear Sway Bar, Edelbrock Shocks, Duraliner, Extang Saber Tonneau, Bell-Tech 2" Rear Drop, Amer. Rac. Atlas Wheels Clad in 275/60/17 Eagle GTII. Likes straightaways, loves twisties.

 

So Mike gets credit for the sale of chips through the banner ad?
Maybe I will delete my other topic if that is the case.
Very interesting this superchip marketing stuff.

 

Well I dunno to much about the last post but I can agree on a rule being broken it should count for everyone not just for a person that is "donating the money to charity" Sorry but I just cant believe it. I think if There is a rule all people should follow it. Thats it.

I am not trying to start anything I am just agreeing that its a rule and should be followed by all. On my forums I do not allow advertising either. And we stick to it for everyone.

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Fred Folkerts Chicago IL
SuperChips Distributer
1997 Ford 150XLT Black/5.4 TRiTiON/4x4/Off Road Package/Winter Package
http://www.sportbikes.net/f150
1999 Kawasaki ZX9R
http://www.sportbikes.net

 

I can't answer for anyone else on this board, but I will add my 2 cents worth. Keep in mind, this is MY 2 cents.

I read the other threads, and when ddracing posted his message under his own message board, it was not shut down. When someone replied to him, welcoming him to the sight, and suggested, in a friendly manner, that he had his work cut out to take business away from Mike, it was not shutdown, when DDRACING replied in a negative tone, from that point on it was downhill. That is in my opinion what caused the thread to be closed, and I support webmasters decision.

Mike gets our business based on his reputation on this board, not based on him being the only person we can find on the internet to buy a chip from!

 

I didn't see where ddracing replied in a negative tone at all. I saw more negativity from Mike who basically insulted ddracing by saying: "Don't worry about it, he's a small new dealer, and cannot compete on price with us".


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keith@myf150.com
http://www.myf150.com
Rocky Mount, NC

1999 F-150 XLT Styleside, Black On Black, SuperCab, Short Bed, 4x4, ORP, 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS

Mods: DrawTite Class III Hitch, Smittybilt Outland Grill Guard/Brush Guards, KC Daylighters, Custom Dual Exhaust w/ Dual Flowmaster 40's-Straight Out The Back, Airaid FIPK, SuperChips Chip, Bug Deflector, Pace-Edwards Roll-Top Bed Cover

 

Cannot beat his price? Shoot I would sell the chips for 5 bux cheaper then him just to prove a point. (Remind you this is nothing against mike) But with a attitude like that I would sell my chips for $220.00 :P

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Fred Folkerts Chicago IL
SuperChips Distributer
1997 Ford 150XLT Black/5.4 TRiTiON/4x4/Off Road Package/Winter Package
http://www.sportbikes.net/f150
1999 Kawasaki ZX9R
http://www.sportbikes.net

 

D0h.. just read the link.. and guess what.. I am sorry but that wasnt cool at all Mike. I am sure you maybe getting a good buck for your chips.. specially if you are a high ended dealer I can see you making a bit of money.. I got the book right here.. But to come off like that.. Well As a fellow distributor I wouldnt have said something like that. You have been very helpful on this board with help on the superchips and everything else which is appreciated. But to just about rip on someone elses company that was uncalled for. Yes yes I know I am new But I am just pointing out something that happens on a lot of message boards and favorites cannot be played. My personal friend that takes care of the chips we sell does not post articles on how to order a superchip. He gets enough business by people just asking. He follows the rules. If we where all able to advertise I think a lot of people on this message board will be getting better deals on these chips then what you can offer.

Right now with being able to post like that is like Holding a Monopoly. Understandable if I was the owner that had the monoply. But to break rules and laws like many corperations do this is where the small guy doesnt make it in the business world and it hurts.

Now I am getting into politics and I hate polotics.. so guess what.. How about if we all agree that all links for any advertising should be closed.. And lets get back to business with out bad boy toys

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Fred Folkerts Chicago IL
SuperChips Distributer
1997 Ford 150XLT Black/5.4 TRiTiON/4x4/Off Road Package/Winter Package
http://www.sportbikes.net/f150
1999 Kawasaki ZX9R
http://www.sportbikes.net

 

Dear Conqsoft,

Nobody has any special "rights" here, save for the Webmaster, and everyone knows it. He has made it very clear that everyone has equal access. He did it very publicly, right in that very same thread, for all to see! I saw it, as did many others. He made it very clear that he didn't want to see any more new threads from anyone that were blatantly commercial in his opinion, and that has been adhered to.

My thread was in answer to *many* requests here for something like a "FAQ", or "frequently asked questions" about how to find the computer code on all the various different trucks, how to do this, how to do that, etc. What was happening was that as new people came onto the message boards, and here to this section, many, many repetitive posts were being made, from people wanting to know this information. And I had to spend a lot of time going over and over and over the very same things. That's a tedious bore to *everyone* else who has to wade thru those posts to get to what they are really interested in. It cut down on all those repetitive posts right away, helping to reduce clutter on the message boards. People get discouraged and don't want to continue spending time in a place that always has the same repetitive types of posts, so it was a means to an end, and an answer to *many* requests.

There is an old saying, "You are either part of the problem, or part of the solution", and that guides me everyday. I sleep quite soundly at night, knowing that I contribute something to this planet, and this place right here, every day. I encourage others to do the same, and the vast majority do. This is a great place to hangout, learn, and share, and I for one intend to continue doing whatever I can to contribute to that process, hopefully.

I wish you all the best,

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com

 

As my mediocre (not quite good) name is being dragged through the mud here, please allow me to repost what was posted in an earlier thread that is being refered to here...

Further...

This does not look to me that I was "chasing" ddracing off of the boards. As diplomatically as I could, I requested that all vendors tone it down a bit.

As far as the banner ad and online ordering for Performance Products, Mike Troyer paid me to do it, just like any other advertiser on the site. It does not give him free reign to spam the message boards.

Though I do not feel I need to defend any actions that I have taken in this instance, I do want to let you know that I contacted Mike personally shortly after the first of the above threads was posted and asked him to tone down the sales aspect of his posts.

Enough said on my end.

Steve

[This message has been edited by webmaster (edited 09-21-1999).]

 

Well put steve and after reading your responce I apologize to you if you felt like you needed to defend yourself.

I as a webmaster also know excactly how it can be having advertisers spam the site. I know you did not chase off the user, I think he felt more unwanted since a couple people said some things.

As far as Mike goes, his post before was before him having the banner ad on top.

I am glad to hear that Mike donated some money to you for us to have such a great place to discuss the F150. I thank you mike for contributing to help this board run. If I was not a webmaster also spending my own money to run my board I would also donate.

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Fred Folkerts Chicago IL
SuperChips Distributer
1997 Ford 150XLT Black/5.4 TRiTiON/4x4/Off Road Package/Winter Package
http://www.sportbikes.net/f150
1999 Kawasaki ZX9R
http://www.sportbikes.net

 

Well said Steve and Mike.
I just want to remind everyone that we are all humans {I hope} and we make mistakes. We have to learn from our mistakes. Now that everyone has heard the truth, and what should have been known at first, we can all forget about this. And Mike saying that Ddracing is a new, small dealer and cant sell at low prices, was ok. Cause if I need info, I can look to either Mike or Ddracing {if he comes back}, which gives me reliability.


Take care everyone,

Jon

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Fast46Triton

1999 Ford F150 XLT Supercab, Shortbed, 4x2, 4 wheel disc brakes/4 wheel Anti-Lock Brakes, Cloth Seats, Amazon green, 16" All season tires, Soft Tonneau Cover, CD Player, 4.6 liter Triton V8, 3:55 ls, towing package, 4 speed auto, K&N Airfilter
Future Mods:
1)Superchip
2)Airbox Mod
3)Gibson Exhaust