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kkirt1 03-22-2001 11:53 AM

Hand washing or High Pressure - which is better?
 
I have always washed my truck at a local high pressure bay. Since the addition of the black Crew the high pressure wash just doesn't seem to be cutting it.

How many of you are washing your trucks by hand? Is there a trick to the high pressure car washes? I came out of one the other day after feeding it 5.00 in quarters and there was still a film of dirt left on the truck. Argh!

I have always assumed the less you actually touch the paint the better but...

Black is such a pain in the a$$ but - wow - it sure looks nice when it is clean!



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smcconaghie 03-22-2001 01:05 PM

my experience has always been the same as yours. high-pressure car washes will only remove the big stuff. while they are great for cleaning the undercarriage of a truck, only sometimes during the winter do I use them on the paint to remove the road salt, etc.

i'm surprised that you have not noticed this on your previous vehicles.

you are right that black is the most awesome color when clean, but the toughest to keep that way.

speaking of cleaning, time for me to go handwash mine!!

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murfster 03-22-2001 01:22 PM

http://www.handspun.ie/bf/em/bbutbut.gif Sadly, as part of the metro Atlanta area, we are stuck with a water ban. This means no water lawns, pools, cars...etc. I have been reduced to actually paying to have my vehicles washed at a brushless (not touchless...just brushless) car wash.
I long for the days of washing in my driveway, taking extra care on the parts you know need special care...sigh...
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ragarm 03-22-2001 02:01 PM

I only use those power spray dealies in the winter when it's absolutely too cold to take the crud off by hand.

Hand washing is ALWAYS the way to go if at all possible.

BTW Murfster, what the heck is that green head smoking?

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BlueOvalBolt 03-22-2001 03:02 PM

The soap used in these washes are of a very high ph like Dawn dishwashing soap and will strip any wax or other surface treatment.

Hand wash if possible.

jb2001 03-22-2001 03:30 PM

I always hand wash. The only difference is in the winter I have to go to the coin op, but I only use the water. I bring my bucket to the car wash. I found a great place that lets you do that.In the summer, it's the bucket on the driveway.

I used to have a black vehicle and it looked great when it was clean but it really showed the dust. Now that I have white, I was surprised that it doesn't show dirt as much.
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2001 03-22-2001 03:45 PM

Sounds like handwash is the way to go!

But my question is...anything special about the soap you add to the water or are you guys just using straight up warm water?

jb2001 03-22-2001 04:05 PM

2001,
I use soap and water. I have read other posts on what to use for washing and people are saying never ever use dish soap but I have and have never had a problem. I have tried car wash products and have not found a difference.I also wax at least once a month.

I may get lots of replies back for that statement but have found it works. I have used it on 5 different color vehicles.

murfster 03-22-2001 04:10 PM

ragarm I have no idea what that green head is smoking. I'm sure it can't be good for him, that's why he saddled up next to my Chrysler.
I think it might be a bug attached to my windshield...remember, I can't use water. http://www.handspun.ie/bf/em/wsaint.gif



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Karick11 03-22-2001 04:13 PM

jb,
I was on Zaino products site and they recomment using dish soap (dawn) to wash just before waxing. It removes all wax, grease, etc.. from the paint to allow for the wild man wax finish. I kinda wonder about using dish soap all the time though. If it works for ya, good deal, but could be why you are needing the wax job every month?. I'm not picking, just curious. Iuse that 5 gallon jug of Castle super shine soap down at the firehouse, and a nice coat of Mothers carnauba (sp?) 2-3 times a year. I've read about the clay bar, but havnt used one. I hear that they do a nice job.......
Rick..

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GO 4D IT 03-22-2001 04:15 PM

I would use a Car Wash soap made for washing cars and not a dish soap. That is unless your truck has baked-on grease or melted cheese on it. Dawn "takes grease out of your way", but it also takes wax out of your way.

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J-150 03-22-2001 04:19 PM

High pressure spray is bad, with soap or not. Think about it, any dust is basically fine abrasive so a high pressure spray forces that fine grit back into your trucks finish. Not a big deal with white or silver, but if you have black.... I could just imagine the microscopic divots being taken out of your paint.

Karick11 03-23-2001 12:48 AM

Kirt, man, I would not be using the car wash as they dont really remove all the crud as you mentioned. Plus, if you use the brush that applies the suds, you are scrubbing someones elses wheelwell grime all over your paint. Extreme?, perhaps. I rarely drive through the automatic car wash unless we're on a trip and have a real road dust problem. I swear by my bucket, soap, and wash mit. Luckily, I'm in the local volunteer F.D., and we're allowed to wash out vehicles in the maintenance bay year around, and up here in "road salt country", thats a plus!!. Enjoy!!
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98SCREAMER 03-23-2001 11:05 AM

I use both,hand wash,then rinse with high pressure. I bought a little K'archer high pressure washer about a year ago https://www.f150online.com/f150board/smile.gif That's what I use when I'm home,but that's only about 4 washes out of 15 or 20. At the auto wash,I rinse the brush thoroughly with the high pressure before it ever touches my baby. I try to stay away from the really dirty(poorly maintained)car washes........98

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kkirt1 03-25-2001 07:24 PM

Thanks guys! I have always sprayed mine. I think I will try hand washing this summer. Thanks for your replies!


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