Hello, I'm currently talking to a dealership about buying a new 2019 F150 SC 4x4. After reading about the tranny problems on the 2018's here and other places, I'll admit a little nervous.

1. Is anyone having any 2019 tranny issues? I did a search and didn't see anything specific to the 2019's and am wondering if the bugs are worked out. I came across the below site that is starting to collect info for a class action lawsuit. They started back on May 3rd. They have some good vids showing the tranny clunks.

https://www.classaction.org/ford-f-1...roblem-lawsuit

2. The salesman is pushing hard the 3.5EB over the 5.0. He has been working there 20+ years. I suspect it is because he has 3.5's in the color I want but no 5.0's on the lot. I have some 5.0's located at other dealers around the state. I know the 3.5EB has alot of torque and HP. I have spoken to other Ford folks who said the 3.5EB works a little harder than the 5.0 pulling the same load. Has anyone noticed if the 3.5EB works a little more than the 5.0....maybe a higher rpm? It also costs about $700 more than the 5.0. The salesman said today the you are supposed to let the 3.5 cool down a couple of minutes before shutting it off after carrying a load. I know some diesel engines are like that. I'm also thinking there are higher maintenance and labor costs for the 3.5EB due to the turbo??

Any pro/con thoughts on the 2019's would be appreciated.

Thanks....John

 

The EB will have more parts versus the N/A 5.0.

Personally, I would go with the 5.0.

I've driven a few 2018 F150s and thought they drove and shifted OK for an automatic. Then again, my truck is manual, so if it shifts rough, I wouldn't really notice, unless it was downright obvious.

 

Thanks.....if I was king for a day....I'd bring back a manual tranny option for the F150. The salesman said it will never happen. Bummer.

 

I think your and I are about 1% of the population.

You have no idea how many disgruntled looks I get when I say I own all manuals. They think I'm from another world.

I also get told I'm a yo-yo driver. Meaning that, especially in my truck, unless you power shift it, there is a delay going from gears. Sorry automatic drivers, that's why there's a passing lane.

My Compass not so. I can mash them gears as fast as an automatic.

 

Well, I'll probably lose my Blue Oval card for this but if I were in the market for a new truck, a Ford would not be on the list. FAR, FAR too many complaints about the 10 speed autos which was a tranny built in concert with GM. GM can't make the thing work either with tons of complaints. Add that GM STILL has not addressed the driveline vibration calling it "normal" and you have a real pile of crap that costs way too much money. The only decent truck on the road today that there seems to be little or no complaints about is the Ram. That would be what I'd go look at first. After buying Ford trucks since 1974, they've just about engineered their way out of my buying mode. I have the 6 speed tranny in my 2014 and it has the clunk and a bump in the driveline. I've learned to ignore it since it's "normal". So far, it hasn't left me on the road....yet. But some of these trucks are just horrendous with issues they want to call "normal". Pretty sad when even the places like J D Powers are ranking the Ram as the truck to buy. Personally, I like the looks of the new Ram truck although the Classic Ram is incredibly dated. The so called "hemi" isn't a hemi at all but is a modded up 1950's Mercedes engine. But it's been a workhorse for Ram and they finally got off of the "lean burn" technology crap and it runs an EGR now which translates into better fuel mileage than before. Might want to give one a look. Certainly doesn't cost you anything to look.
But, if it's a Ford or nothing, I'd be looking at the 5.0 or nothing. The 5.0 is going away so Iwouldn't wait around too much.

 

My brother has Dodge trucks (3) and swears by them. I have always been a Ford bubba owning/driving them, F100, F150's, Rangers, Falcon Wagon, MustangII, etc. Current daily driver is a 03 FX4 I got in 2004. Got a snowbird Ranger in FL that stays in storage for about 8 months out of the year. For road trips we have a CRV. Anyway....it would out of character to get anything other than a Ford truck....but I'm also wary of buying an expensive or chronic headache if the 2019 10 speed tranny is carrying over some of the problems from 2018. That is what I'm not sure on just yet. I knew the 5.0 is going away....I read a news article a couple-three weeks back talking about it. That seems like another downward spiral for Ford. The problem with Dodges is up where I'm at is the roads get salted in the winter. You see alot of newer Dodges rusting.

Ref the manual tranny....IMO if Ford could team up with a company like Hurst and do manuals again with say a chrome, Hurst shifter to add some flash for those who like flash, I think it could be a positive market for them. Ford should do it before the other guys knock off the idea and offer it on their trucks.

 

Having towed with both the 3.5EB tows effortlessly
The 5.0 was my choice, but it works a little harder towing heavy loads


https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...3-5-10spd.html

https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...yote-f150.html

 

Pat....thanks. I seen your first link earlier when searching. Haven't seen the 2nd. Do you have any insight about the 2019 10 speeds with respect to the issues some 2018 owners are experiencing? I am wondering if Ford cleaned up those issues for 2019.

 

I haven't had any issues with my 10spd and I've got 15k on it now. Every now and then (very rarely) it will do something a bit clunky or quirky but nothing I can duplicate, so I dont bother taking it in

They have had several software updates since I bought my 2018 and every time it gets an update it's even better than ever

 

That is good info to know....thanks.

 

Having owned Chevys, Toyota’s, and Fords ranging from 75, 95, 02, 2011, and now 2018 I can say each truck was progressively better than the last. Current 2018 screw 4x4 with 3.5, 3.55 LS, 10 speed is an awesome beast. Went from the 2011 with 5.0, 6 speed to 2018 with towing in mind. Pulled a 29 ft TT at 7500 lbs loaded with both these rigs. The 5.0 did the job at a well but the 3.5 just pulls away both in low end power up to freeway speeds while getting about 20% better fuel economy both with or without towing. The 5.0 has a nice sound till your dragging a trailer behind it then it can become a noise drone at Hwy speeds. The eco is nice and quiet and rarely exceeds 3500 rpm towing even up long grades and passes.
I will say the 10 speed was a bit jerky when I first bought it. Especially if using Sport mode. I took it back in and they reflashed the computer and within 1500 miles it relearned and smoothed out greatly. Unless your going to buy a diesel pickup neither the GM, nor Ram hold a candle to this little eco motor and transmission. Currently have 20 k miles with about 3500 towing.

 

For those that have the eco....any turbo issues?

 

Not too many turbo related. Mostly it is sensors and other stuff.

The turbo on these engines are water cooled (versus oil cooled). So changing your coolant on schedule (or a tad sooner) doesn't hurt.

Letting your truck idle 3-5 minutes with a coolant cooled turbo isn't necessary. I recommend 1-2 minutes after high speed highway or moderate-heavy towing. Other than that, you don't need to wait 1-2 minutes; after driving you can simply turn it off. The coolant believe it or not still kind of moves. So it's not like it's cooking the bearings.

 

I have the 5.0 10 speed tranny in my 2018 with 13,000 with no issues for me so far...