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2015 likely 10speed trans

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Old 09-29-2013, 09:22 AM
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4spd auto, 30+ years. 6spd auto, 5yrs, .

Ford actually playing nice with another company surprises me highly though. Couple years ago they sued left & right anyone remaking the Ford emblem, and sued Ferrari for naming a car F1-50 or something along those lines.
 
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by IR0NS1N
Like Dodges ZF 8 speed it'll skip gears most likely. Only using some gears for sweet spot downshifts or using more gears during towing. Main thing is you can run a 3.08 or less gear with a 10 speed and have the same take off power as a 4.10 with the 4speed 4r75. Then great highway mpg.
Just because it has more gears, does not mean that is always good. If you tow, that 8 or 10 speed with a 3.08 will still end up dead due to excessive shifting, not at starting out, but w2hile trying to stay at a highway speed. That will kill it every time. That extra MPG will only happen in the city as the top OD gear will still be about the same as the current 4 or 6 speed trannie. Can't go any lower without making that transmission constantly shift to hold highway speed.
 

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Old 09-29-2013, 01:36 PM
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Is it really a 10 speed or a 5 speed in which each gear can pick a certain ratio?
 
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Old 09-29-2013, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kingfish51
Just because it has more gears, does not mean that is always good. If you tow, that 8 or 10 speed with a 3.08 will still end up dead due to excessive shifting, not at starting out, but w2hile trying to stay at a highway speed. That will kill it every time. That extra MPG will only happen in the city as the top OD gear will still be about the same as the current 4 or 6 speed trannie. Can't go any lower without making that transmission constantly shift to hold highway speed.
No if you run a ford typical 3.55 or 3.73 running a 3.08 will be a big rpm drop for freeway mpg. Loosing 700lbs will also help the drivetrain even in towing. So instead of kicking from 4th into 3rd gear the truck will go from 10th to 7th gear. It may only use 7th gear only when towing up hills. It may skip it all other times. Who knows maybe 7th gear from 10th at 70mph puts the truck exactly at 2800rpm where peak torque of the engine could be making it effortless for the truck and you dont notice anything but an rpm change.
 
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Old 09-29-2013, 03:15 PM
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Would make sense since there is so heavy a production level of autos in Asia that it will be an Asian plant making the trany. I will pass on paying extra for it and go with the standard 6 speed. LOL
 
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Old 09-29-2013, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by IR0NS1N
No if you run a ford typical 3.55 or 3.73 running a 3.08 will be a big rpm drop for freeway mpg. Loosing 700lbs will also help the drivetrain even in towing. So instead of kicking from 4th into 3rd gear the truck will go from 10th to 7th gear. It may only use 7th gear only when towing up hills. It may skip it all other times. Who knows maybe 7th gear from 10th at 70mph puts the truck exactly at 2800rpm where peak torque of the engine could be making it effortless for the truck and you dont notice anything but an rpm change.
Believe me, after towing in the past with a 3.08, just the air resistance will cause it to downshift, even on level road. And my towing was a boat, weighing less than 3000lbs. At 65 in OD, a 3.08 cannot keep engine rpms up enough to maintain speed.
 
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Are you surprised? You shouldn't be. Ford worked together with GM on some 6 speeds...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM-Ford...c_transmission
 
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:38 AM
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Also, are they going to stay with a torque Converter or go with a clutch? Paddle shifters on there 10 speed F150 anyone?
 
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:25 AM
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I'd love to see a wet clutch setup. I don't like they dry setup in the focus that makes a ton of racket everytime you just open the door of the car.
 
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Semi tractors that travel our great land hauling all our goods 24 hours a day have upwards of 12 or more gears.
Yes they do but 99.9% of them are manual. Fleet owners will not spring for the extra cost of an Allison auto and 99 out of 100 owner operators won't either. Most, if they have the coin to spend would rather have the big horse engines than spend the 30K plus for an allison. And last I heard the allison autos only had 5 speeds anyway.
 

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Originally Posted by 05RedFX4
Yes they do but 99.9% of them are manual. Fleet owners will not spring for the extra cost of an Allison auto and 99 out of 100 owner operators won't either. Most, if they have the coin to spend would rather have the big horse engines than spend the 30K plus for an allison. And last I heard the allison autos only had 5 speeds anyway.
You would be surprised how many big trucks have autos now. The vast majority are still stick, but it's like 60/40 now.

10 speed transmission is inviting failures with any sort of load. It's like Ford is finally realizing most F-150 owners are just driving to the grocery store and back and building them like an Escort or Tempo...
 
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I'd still rather have a 10 speed than a CVT. CVT's have KNOWN reliability issues, just ask Nissan about that.
 
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:52 PM
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I'd still rather have a 10 speed than a CVT. CVT's have KNOWN reliability issues, just ask Nissan about that.
CVT isnt in the conversation, so why bring it up? I dont think they will ever be able to produce a CVT that is capable of functioning reliably on a truck.
 
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Old 10-07-2013, 07:32 PM
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I brought up the CVT because of this post:

Originally Posted by aussiekeeper
Sharing technologies saves money..........With a 10+ speed we will be getting closer to CVT tech, I like it.
It WAS in the conversation.
 
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all you guys with your 6spd trans...im over here like "hey, my 4spd is a dog!"
 

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