2.7 EcoBoost mileage estimates
#31
02-10-2014, 06:44 PM
FLASHBACK:
During a 300-mile stretch of highway — where we refueled just outside Vail, Colo., and headed east across the Rockies to Dillon, Colo., and then traveled back west to the Utah border — there were moments when the truck’s trip computer told us we were averaging over 25 mpg. We finished that segment averaging a manually calculated 23.2 mpg – the best fuel economy we can recall over such a long distance in a full-size gas pickup truck.
It’s important to point out that we didn’t “hypermile” either truck to boost efficiency. We drove them like we normally would, and for long stretches we kept the trucks at one speed using cruise control. We also filled up only with regular octane gasoline, which ranged from 85 RON (ugh) to 87 R
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/04...-6-part-2.html
THESE WERE FX SUPERCREWS WITH 3.55 GEARS.
During a 300-mile stretch of highway — where we refueled just outside Vail, Colo., and headed east across the Rockies to Dillon, Colo., and then traveled back west to the Utah border — there were moments when the truck’s trip computer told us we were averaging over 25 mpg. We finished that segment averaging a manually calculated 23.2 mpg – the best fuel economy we can recall over such a long distance in a full-size gas pickup truck.
It’s important to point out that we didn’t “hypermile” either truck to boost efficiency. We drove them like we normally would, and for long stretches we kept the trucks at one speed using cruise control. We also filled up only with regular octane gasoline, which ranged from 85 RON (ugh) to 87 R
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/04...-6-part-2.html
THESE WERE FX SUPERCREWS WITH 3.55 GEARS.
#32
02-10-2014, 07:05 PM
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Let me guess...the folks that can't replicate EPA ratings on an EcoBoost can't replicate EPA ratings on a 5.0, or a 5.4, or a 4.6, or a 4 banger in a Honda Civic.
EPA ratings are estimates, and are used to compare one model to another. Not to tell you what YOU will get on your particular vehicle with your particular driving style in your particular environment.
So, if the EPA rating says vehicle A will get 10% better than vehicle B, chances are, you will get 10% driving vehicle A than if you were driving vehicle B. That's all it says, and that's how the EPA ratings should be used. They are relative numbers, not absolute numbers.
Sure, there are extenuating circumstances, but for the most part, EPA ratings do a pretty good job of estimating those numbers (unless it is a hybrid).
EPA ratings are estimates, and are used to compare one model to another. Not to tell you what YOU will get on your particular vehicle with your particular driving style in your particular environment.
So, if the EPA rating says vehicle A will get 10% better than vehicle B, chances are, you will get 10% driving vehicle A than if you were driving vehicle B. That's all it says, and that's how the EPA ratings should be used. They are relative numbers, not absolute numbers.
Sure, there are extenuating circumstances, but for the most part, EPA ratings do a pretty good job of estimating those numbers (unless it is a hybrid).
#34
02-10-2014, 09:15 PM
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And I haven't seen any reports of people beating the EPA rating on the 5.0 on a consistent basis either. Doesn't mean I have looked, or have scoured all the sources, because frankly, I don't care. The point of my previous post still stands. If you beat the EPA rating in one vehicle, chances are, you will in any other vehicle. If you don't in one, chances are, you won't in another. Barring extenuating circumstances, of course.
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02-10-2014, 09:52 PM
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02-10-2014, 10:01 PM
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It's not just you, a lot of people are that way. Personally, I like it to be quiet in the cab, but some folks like to hear the exhaust rumble.
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Ford has spoken...
By Ford’s calculations, the 2015 truck, equipped with a new 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 6-speed automatic transmission, will be capable of achieving “close to” 30 miles a gallon in the Environmental Protection Agency’s highway test when it goes on sale this year, according to (Ford) engineers who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the ratings have not been formally announced.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/au...=tw-share&_r=0
By Ford’s calculations, the 2015 truck, equipped with a new 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 6-speed automatic transmission, will be capable of achieving “close to” 30 miles a gallon in the Environmental Protection Agency’s highway test when it goes on sale this year, according to (Ford) engineers who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the ratings have not been formally announced.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/au...=tw-share&_r=0
#38
02-10-2014, 10:48 PM
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Ford has spoken...
By Ford’s calculations, the 2015 truck, equipped with a new 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 6-speed automatic transmission, will be capable of achieving “close to” 30 miles a gallon in the Environmental Protection Agency’s highway test when it goes on sale this year, according to (Ford) engineers who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the ratings have not been formally announced.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/au...=tw-share&_r=0
By Ford’s calculations, the 2015 truck, equipped with a new 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 6-speed automatic transmission, will be capable of achieving “close to” 30 miles a gallon in the Environmental Protection Agency’s highway test when it goes on sale this year, according to (Ford) engineers who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the ratings have not been formally announced.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/au...=tw-share&_r=0
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02-11-2014, 12:39 AM
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Butt... You forgot the real Hybrid drivetrain Ford IS bringing to market for trucks in a few years the should get high 30s near 40 mpg...!
If you can get 28 mpg with the 2.7 for 95% of ur driving n have the Capability to tow up to 8000 lbs the rest of the time and Realize ur mpg will be lower.., so what!!!!!
It's still cheaper than $4500 premium for Italian EcoDiesel with fuel that cost 20% more All the time!!!
Ford has a Serious Game Changer with this "High Output" 2.7 made of CGI block for durability n capability that is tuned for efficiency...!
If you can get 28 mpg with the 2.7 for 95% of ur driving n have the Capability to tow up to 8000 lbs the rest of the time and Realize ur mpg will be lower.., so what!!!!!
It's still cheaper than $4500 premium for Italian EcoDiesel with fuel that cost 20% more All the time!!!
Ford has a Serious Game Changer with this "High Output" 2.7 made of CGI block for durability n capability that is tuned for efficiency...!
Right there with ya. Not only is it a big factor, it's a deal breaker, period.
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#40
02-11-2014, 02:33 PM
Depending on the configuration, I'd guess at least 6,000 lbs... More than the average person needs.
The way I see it, N/A V6 is entry level (good enough for the average Joe who rarely hauls/tows), 2.7L Eco for mileage and slightly less towing capacity of the 5.0, 5.0 will be the less expensive alternative to the baby Ecoboost, 3.5L Eco will be for max towing capacity and better mileage than the 5.0.
The way I see it, N/A V6 is entry level (good enough for the average Joe who rarely hauls/tows), 2.7L Eco for mileage and slightly less towing capacity of the 5.0, 5.0 will be the less expensive alternative to the baby Ecoboost, 3.5L Eco will be for max towing capacity and better mileage than the 5.0.
#41
02-11-2014, 09:19 PM
Depending on the configuration, I'd guess at least 6,000 lbs... More than the average person needs.
The way I see it, N/A V6 is entry level (good enough for the average Joe who rarely hauls/tows), 2.7L Eco for mileage and slightly less towing capacity of the 5.0, 5.0 will be the less expensive alternative to the baby Ecoboost, 3.5L Eco will be for max towing capacity and better mileage than the 5.0.
The way I see it, N/A V6 is entry level (good enough for the average Joe who rarely hauls/tows), 2.7L Eco for mileage and slightly less towing capacity of the 5.0, 5.0 will be the less expensive alternative to the baby Ecoboost, 3.5L Eco will be for max towing capacity and better mileage than the 5.0.
This could make a great line-up:
3.5 v6 NA 280 hp 300 ftlbs 6000 lb tow 27 mpg
2.7 v6 EB 320 hp 350 ftlbs 8000 lb tow 28 mpg
5.0 v8 NA 360 hp 400 ftlbs 10,000 lb tow 25 mpg
3.5 v6 EB 400 hp 450 ftlbs 12,000 lb tow 26 mpg
This gives most engines 20%+ mpg improvement with -700 lbs wt loss better aerodynamics and engine refinements...
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02-12-2014, 04:36 PM
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#45
02-12-2014, 04:52 PM
Must be a Blue Moon - I find myself in agreement with glc
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