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Old 09-10-2012, 08:37 AM
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E-85 Gas in Ontario...

Hey guys, just wondering where to get E-85 gas in Ontario Canada? I filled up from half a tank while in Lake George NY on the weekend and really enjoyed paying .79 cents/litre...
 
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Just curious, how much did your mileage go down?
 
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgt Beavis
Just curious, how much did your mileage go down?

The drive down I got about 23mpg driving normal. After I filled with E-85 I was fairly heavy on the throttle through alot of hills and Turns and I still got about 20.5mpg...
 
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:31 PM
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In town is where our trucks really drink the E85. Mine MIGHT get 12.5 in town on that stuff.
 
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:05 PM
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I understand there are maybe only 4 gas stations in Ontario. Guelph, Chatham and 2 in Ottawa. Guelph - UPI on Wellington. Not sure about the others. You can check the Ontario gas prices website. If you click on the names of some gas stations around your area they will have an E85 symbol in their features.
 
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:14 PM
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I would be curious to hear more about what people get as far as gas mileage in their F150s whethey run e85 consistently. My work car has a 4.6l and I get 60% or MAYBE 70% my normal mileage when I run e85 consistently. They put the gas in it so I don't really care, but I have never bothered to put e85 in my new truck as I figure it will just cost me more in the long run to use it.
 
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:54 PM
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OK, not exactly on topic, but did you know that E85 in not available ANYWHERE in Alberta? Go figure, all these oil sands, and nobody wants to make gas outta corn.

Not only that, but 91 Octane is all the station carry. Not a 93 within my circle of fuel stops to be seen, which is too bad. I would have loved to get a 93 perf tune instead of the 91 on my tuner.
 
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:12 AM
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OK, not exactly on topic, but did you know that E85 in not available ANYWHERE in Alberta? Go figure, all these oil sands, and nobody wants to make gas outta corn.

Not only that, but 91 Octane is all the station carry. Not a 93 within my circle of fuel stops to be seen, which is too bad. I would have loved to get a 93 perf tune instead of the 91 on my tuner.
i know i looked every where but there is actually a few plants in Alberta.
http://greenfuels.org/en/industry-in...on/plants.aspx
 
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The drive down I got about 23mpg driving normal. After I filled with E-85 I was fairly heavy on the throttle through alot of hills and Turns and I still got about 20.5mpg...
US or Imperial gallons?
 
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Originally Posted by glc
US or Imperial gallons?
Imperial
 
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E-85 in the U.S. where I gassed up was around $.90 cents per/liter or $3.39 per gallon. In Ontario E-85 is about $0.02 cents cheaper then Regular, about 1.26/litre or $4.76 a gallon in my hometown...

So it certinly isnt worth the loss in mileage to run E-85 in Canada...
 
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:04 PM
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BTW, I don't even think E85 quality is regulated in Ontario...meaning what's sold at a pump might be E35 instead of E85. The regular blend is pretty loosely managed as well. According to the Ethanol in Gasoline regulation, distributors in Ontario need to demonstrate that their fuel contains an annual average of 5% ethanol within a compliance year. So sometimes it might not have any, and sometimes it might have more. There's nothing in that regulation about E85. I don't think it's regulated in the US yet either, which might explain why you got pretty good mileage on it.
 
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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome
i know i looked every where but there is actually a few plants in Alberta.
http://greenfuels.org/en/industry-in...on/plants.aspx
There is only one operational plant according to the list. Another is in production, and two more proposed. The interesting part is that the only plant in Alberta is right in your backyard, and still is not available to the consumer...... or is it? Any chance Permolex would sell directly to you? Perhaps mix your own E85...... Got any chemist buddies? I doubt its as simple at mixing 8.5 parts ethanol to 1.5 parts gas.
 
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ya but the list was last updated Nov 2010. i was thinking about seeing if you could get e85 direct i was reading some where about it. i would love to try a tank of it Burning E85 fuel boosts 5.0 engine power to 375 hp and 390 pounds-feet of torque.
 



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