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tony_b_403 05-29-2015 03:42 PM

looking to swap out a 04-08 f150 5.4 3V
 
So I've been looking for replacement motors for my 04 f150. Been looking at the 5.4 lightning long block, and
5.4 crate motor. Just wandering what the difficulty would be to install or problems encountered or if there would be a better option for swap?thanks

Anthony Edu 01-05-2019 08:14 PM

bumping an old thread

glc 01-05-2019 10:54 PM

2004 or newer 5.4 3 valve, the newer the better.

Anthony Edu 01-06-2019 12:54 AM

Any recommended companies the remanufacture these motors? Any thoughts on Jasper engines?

SoonerTruck 01-07-2019 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by glc (Post 5245734)
2004 or newer 5.4 3 valve, the newer the better.

This. No reason to use a Lightning 5.4L, the 04-08 5.4L with a supercharger makes just as much power. Rebuild the one you have or find a reman unit if you're trying to do it quickly.

glc 01-07-2019 11:24 AM

A reman with a warranty is a better bet than trying to rebuild a 3V.

Roadie 01-07-2019 02:28 PM

I watched a few of the Deboss Garage videos and the mechanic who makes the videos does not like Fords. Anyway, he said that the company that provides reman engines to his garage quit rebuilding the 5.4 3V engines because they were so difficult to rebuild. As I remember he said the cams don't have bearings and to rebuild them the heads had to be align bored and cam bearings pressed in.

if you go for a reman, don't buy the first cheap one you see advertised. Buy one from a reputable rebuilder.

Slug150 01-11-2019 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by glc (Post 5245734)
2004 or newer 5.4 3 valve, the newer the better.

Will a 5.4 from a 09 / 10 work in an 04?

SoonerTruck 01-16-2019 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Slug150 (Post 5245879)
Will a 5.4 from a 09 / 10 work in an 04?

It should, they didn't make any significant changes to the 5.4L after '07 or so. The 09/10 models had the 6spd transmission, but I don't think that changed anything with the 5.4L components.

Slug150 01-16-2019 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by SoonerTruck (Post 5246110)
It should, they didn't make any significant changes to the 5.4L after '07 or so. The 09/10 models had the 6spd transmission, but I don't think that changed anything with the 5.4L components.

Yeh it appears the 08 to 10 motors are the same. PowerSource Engines have the engines listed as 04 to 07 and 08 to 10.

Their prices on rebuilt engines are really good btw.

http://www.psengines.com/FORD8.htm

glc 01-16-2019 01:43 PM

They changed the head design in mid 2008 to use conventional 1 piece plugs. However, they still have the poorly designed VCT system and the sometimes problematic cam chain guides and tensioner issues.

ManualF150 01-16-2019 07:27 PM

Only way I'd mess with a 5.4l 3v is if it was reman WITH a melling pump and some other VCT goodies. This way you have a warranty and you know it's done right.

Slug150 01-16-2019 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by ManualF150 (Post 5246127)
Only way I'd mess with a 5.4l 3v is if it was reman WITH a melling pump and some other VCT goodies. This way you have a warranty and you know it's done right.

Its reman'd with a Melling pump and comes with a 3 year 100,000 mile warranty.

This is the email that was sent to me,


We have the Ford authorized remanufactured engine for $2679 for the basic longblock with reclaimed phasers, $2799 for the longblock with sheetmetal or $3099 with sheetmetal and new Ford OEM cam phasers. There is a refundable $500 core deposit which can be waived for 30 days. It carries a 3 year/100,000 mile parts and labor warranty. The $2799 and $3099 versions come complete with oil pan, timing cover, spark plugs, valve covers and VVT solenoids as pictured including installation gaskets and exhaust stud kit. These engines are produced alongside the Ford Motorcraft brand engines at the same remanufacturing facility. These engines have the cam journals bored out and cam bearings installed to correct the oiling issues that cause the cam phaser/timing chain tensioner failures. In addition, they’re built with the Melling high volume oil pump for an added measure of dependability. The $2799 version is the exact same engine our competitors are selling for $3055- $3345. We also offer for $149 an upgrade to a no-fault warranty that will replace the engine even if the failure is not due to defects in workmanship and material. Two way shipping is free in the lower 48 continental United States. Please don’t hesitate to call us if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Stan
PowerSource
888-625-8691
BBB A+ Rated!

ManualF150 01-16-2019 09:44 PM

They seem to have been in business for a long time. Their site hasn't changed since it's inception. (Did some webarchive..) Their prices haven't changed much either, heck, since even the early 2000's.

Judging from that, they seem to be OK -- they aren't a fly-by-night rebuilder, which is good and they seem to stand by their pricing.

I'd go for it.

glc 01-16-2019 09:49 PM

I wouldn't take one that did NOT have new OEM Ford phasers.


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