Engine swap between 2004 F150 5.4 3V with F150 2006 5.4 3V Need advise
 

Hi Folks! I want to make a swap to 2004 F150 5.4 3V the donor truck it's a newer F150 2006 5.4 3V.

Please let me know wht i'm going to need in order to make it successfully and anticipate any problems may occurr.

Any one do it already?

Thanks for your advise.

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as far as i know its a direct swap

Thanks for your responce I'm not sure if computer needs a reprograming

you need to put both motors on the ground and compare the vacuum hoses and the injectors

in 2006 Ford used a different vacuum hose and routing compared to the 2004/2005 trucks.

they also used a slightly different injector due to the issues the 2005 trucks were having with faulty injectors.


each motor is essentially a complete swap. at most, I can see you having to take your 2004 intake off and putting it onto the 2006 motor. The CMCV crap and the vacuum stuff will be the determining factor.

Thanks Tylus!!!
 

Thanks for your help! What CMCV means? Regarding the computers, do you think a reflash or something is needed?

I can't say for certain, but I think Ford quit using EOT in 2006 or '07. No big deal, if your '06 engine doesn't have an engine oil temp sensor, just clean/reuse the oil pan from your 2004 engine.

this is talking about a 4.6 3v...but it's pretty much the exact same thing for the 5.4 3v. The CMCV is built into the 5.4 3v manifold whereas the 4.6 3v uses a seperate chunk of metal.
basically you can grab any 2004-2008 F-150 5.4 3v motor, or 2005-2008 Expedition 5.4 3v motor or a 5.4 3v from a Superduy.

then take the intake off and swap your 2004 stuff on if it's different. you shouldn't need to do any PCM stuff at all. just make sure all of the stuff is the same when you re-install.



didn't know about that quintin. wonder why they did that

2008 to 2004 swap
 

I hope this thread isnt dead- same basic subject line. I put a 2008 expedition 5.4 with 46,500 into a 2004 5.4 truck and had trouble since. gets a P0340 code and wont run with the cam sensor plugged in- unpluuged in limp mode runs OK- traced all wiring and even reprogrammed the pcm to no avail. any clues?

Thanks

you should just use the long block off the 08 and used the intake and everything else off the 04

Did that- wondering if the cams are different?

Tore apart the front of the engine saturday, chain was off 2 teeth on bank 1. redid both chains, now runs Great! no more codes.
Thanks for all the help here.

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Great! Congratulations!
 

Would you tell me what did you need to make the swap?

I wound up moving the electrical sensors, oil pan due to oil sensor not being in the newer engine- intake, which has to come off anyway and 04 has some different vacuum setups- I used the newer exhaust manifolds as they have heat sheilds on them. so basically long block. Everything lined up perfectly.

So what do you have to change to make it run perfectly
 

So what do you have to change to make it run perfectly

Swap engine
 

I'm trying to swap the 2004 5.4 3v digit 5 to a 2006 5.4 3v digit 5 what do I need to change to make it run perfectly ??

2004- 2009 5.4 triton swap?
 

I'm wanting to swap a 2004 f-150 5.4 out with a 2009. Is this possible?

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I hope so as my built motor is an 09/10.

As long as you use the long block it should work. As said I previous post, swap all parts over from the 04 onto the 09 motor.

Apart from vac the only difference is the FRPS. the heads are different on the 09, cannot remember if the 3L3E & 8L3E coils have the same connector?

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I know it's been a while but I am curious as to wether or not you were able to complete the 09 5.4 swap into a 04. I am in the same boat and am wondering if after intake, hoses and oil pan switch, from old to new , if everything else was a direct swap ?

5.4 swap
 

I'm needing to swap a 2007 5.4. I found a 2012 v-10 6.8 I believe do y'all know if it will fit or have any suggestions on motors I can use. The only thing I'm finding is 04-08 5.4 that will work any suggestions are greatly appericated

Just did a engine swap on my 2004 f150 new body style with the 5.4l,
Everything went fine until I tried to connect my fuel pressure sensor, it went from a big square with 3 wires to a small flat sensor with 4 wires, the connections don't fit and it makes my truck idle ruff.
It came out of a truck 1 year newer same body style same engine.

2004 to any year swap
 

Hi all. I found this thread while looking for something similar and created a new account just so I could reply! (I know it started in 2010, updated last year, but no one has given this info).


Regarding the 2004 F150 5.4 3v (non-heritage). I have this truck, FX4, and discovered this a couple years ago.


This is the only year of the new body style that has a different program in the PCM and different camshafts. The cam 'keys' are clocked I believe 90 or 45 degrees from the 2005+ 5.4 cams so they're not a direct swap. In addition the lash adjusters are also different with this year. A few posts up kind if indicates this about it not running right. The 2004 PCM shouldn't be able to run a 2005+ cam (or visa versa). I found an article explaining the difference as well as when you look at any Ford parts site, this one year is a different part number for both (and they're more expensive). Can't find the site, but I printed it and it's my garage.


I'm actually trying to find if the PCM from a 2005+ is a direct swap with my 2004 PCM so I can use more readily available aftermarket parts so I can install performance cams, supercharger, etc.


If someone wants the document I found regarding this I'll gladly share it. Hope this helps someone.


Ian

This last post spooked me
 

I also have an 04 5.4 3v. I found in 06 to replace it. I've read some folks saying they had success. Although I'm curious if they had in 05 or newer and swapped to the different years that are compatible. Seems the 05 to 08 are definitely the same at least the short block anyway. 04 seems like an odd duck. I looked up camshafts and the 04 is different than the 05 to 08. This part has me spooked. This is a long post thanks for reading it all. Also if the 04 cams are keyed differently I wonder if I could just swap the ECU along with the motor I have access to both. Thanks again for any help you might be able to give me. I'm hoping for a Ford Tech or someone who has done this exact swap before.

Need advice and options
 

id really like to have this information on the 04 5.4 3v Triton , and what my options are for a swap