I am wondering if anyone on here has the ability to program as-built data into a Lariat cluster for me. I haven't found anyone to do this for me locally, so I am wondering if I can send it somewhere to do it. I have a way of doing the mileage, but can''t get the programming. Everything works great but my A/C. So if any of you out there work in the service department for Ford, maybe you could help me out. Is there any way to bypass the clusters monitoring of the A/C by direct wiring? This is really annoying me as I have gotten everything else to work, but getting the A/C to work.

 

I am a Ford Tech, But I live in Connecticut. You do need somebody with an IDS/PDS to download the as built data into the cluster. I wish I could help

 

Can't the as-built data be loaded without the truck present? I was under the impression that it could be downloaded from Ford based on the VIN and pushed into the cluster.

 

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With out the IDs/PDs you will not be able to get the data to the cluster. The IDs system is bascially an Integrated Diagnostic System / Programmer Diagnostic system, where it can change the ECU variables, and copy information to the cluster. It is highly expensive, and only factory trained technicians are allowed to use it. As one screw up can kill the ECU and the rest of the electronics. As far as version-wise, you want to make sure they have PDs version 62.

It's a very tedious thing... but if you've got the tech willing to do it, they will.

 

So are you confirming that you can program the cluster without the truck being present? Or are you claiming that the truck's ECU needs some reprogramming?

 

The only way to program it is through the diagnostic port on your truck. So the cluster has to be installed in the truck, and the IDS or PDS has to be plugged into the truck.

You have already checked your local Ford dealer to see if they would do this procedure??

 

Slight correction. The latest IDS/PDS release is 54, and it's not very hard or tedious to do. If you search hard enough, you can find used IDS or PDS setups on EBay, the VCM licensing and software is usually out of date, but they're out there. If you ask really nicely, a dealer's parts department can order the VCM and cables for you new, but you'll need access to Ford's dealer website to download the software and calibrations.

 

Sorry, not a Ford tech here, but unless you can beg, borrow or steal. That piece costs major $. I checked e-bay, new for $ 2,925.00 for the kit if it's still available. Not much help here. If me, I would find a dealer that would be willing to do that for you and be happy with the cost. I've never dealt with this before and to be truthfully, don't have a clue to help you, so I apologize if I'm out there in left field.
Edit- I did see the 54 software for aout $20.00

 

If I had to guess I would assume the charges would range between $50-$100 depending on which area in the country you are located to have a Ford dealer do this.

 

Sorry, it's 54... I dunno what made me type in 62..

But yes, it's 54.

 

Blame it on the keyboard, that's what I've doing lately. The one I have is like a zillion years old, wireless and needs to go to the trash can.

Glad I have ieSpell, otherwise you wouldn't even understand what I'm saying!!!!! POS keyboard. Sorry for the rant, back on topic now.

 

I believe JD is correct. The cluster should be programed with the truck.
Modules that need programming should not be exchanged between vehicles. In most cases the parameter values or settings are unique to that vehicle, and if not set correctly, cause concerns or faults.

The diagnostic tool automatically attempts to retrieve the module configuration information from all modules, and from a backup location in the powertrain control module (PCM) when vehicle ID is carried out. If the module and the PCM do not contain correct information the diagnostic tool either requests As Built data or displays a list of items that are needed to manually configure the module. The diagnostic tool programs the module based on the data entered.

For additional diagnostic tool programming procedures, refer to Programmable Module Installation in this section.

There are 3 different methods that are used for module programming:

programmable module installation (PMI)
calibration update
programmable parameters
Some modules do not support all 3 methods.

 

Was wondering if any one has changed the dash wiring from an XLT to Larait for the cluster and heating controls ? Does this screw anything up ? Looking at the wiring book I have it seems this could be done

 

Not sure about the wiring, but I've read where this has be done. Do a search and find your information.

 

So yesterday I talked to my local dealer and they said that they could do it and it would cost $83 and 1 hour of time. I call back today to verify and make sure they had time today to do it and the shop 'foreman' said that it isn't always cut and dry and it would cost $180. I don't know why there is a discrepency, but it is really irritating. I don't know what to do at this point. Any techs near me willing to do this for me??