SAE HP = RWHP or at the Crank?
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
I don't believe any runs, by any guys, especially on the net..LOL
In Tylus' defense though; he seems like a pretty straight up dude.
I noticed Troyer talking about 310 rwhp for a stock Lightning dyno pull in the link you posted. Well I can personally attest to seeing 350 rwhp on a stock Lightning, and this was on an accurate dyno. Cobra's (03-04), I've seen all over the map from 350- almost 400, and that's stock.
Unfortunately, I never saw any F150's on the rollers. I used to pop by my friends performance shop to watch the different car and truck clubs come through on dyno days. Haven't been back in a while.
In Tylus' defense though; he seems like a pretty straight up dude.I noticed Troyer talking about 310 rwhp for a stock Lightning dyno pull in the link you posted. Well I can personally attest to seeing 350 rwhp on a stock Lightning, and this was on an accurate dyno. Cobra's (03-04), I've seen all over the map from 350- almost 400, and that's stock.
Unfortunately, I never saw any F150's on the rollers. I used to pop by my friends performance shop to watch the different car and truck clubs come through on dyno days. Haven't been back in a while.
Many factors could account for a 40 rwhp difference - and again, he's run hundreds, and you saw what, one?
Just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Including cam swaps I know a few that have done quite well going to SD, esspecially with a SC, but no, I haven't personally done any myself.
I kept the MAF intact in my car, although that has all been changed to aftermarket.
I kept the MAF intact in my car, although that has all been changed to aftermarket.
Thanks - I need to get this done one day .... and there's always good 'ol Brandon LOL!
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yes, its been discussed that we have very inefficient transmissions... stock 01-04 lighhtnings put 385 hp at the crank, and yes some have dynoed at 350 or so. when i dynoed 2 years ago i was supposedly at aound 410-415 hp at the crank (according to roush) yet i only put down 308 at the wheels...
why they dont use those wonderful 4r100's in all these trucks is beyond me...
why they dont use those wonderful 4r100's in all these trucks is beyond me...
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
TP's own dyno ( DynoJet 224xLC Eddy Current/Load Cell), is 'stingy' - and meticulously maintained. He's also a top Lightning tuner and runs one himself.
Many factors could account for a 40 rwhp difference - and again, he's run hundreds, and you saw what, one?
Just sayin'.
Many factors could account for a 40 rwhp difference - and again, he's run hundreds, and you saw what, one?
Just sayin'.
I've seen several Lightnings get dyno'd, but only the one stocker that I can recall. I've seen A LOT of dyno pulls. I've seen Cobras dyno on the same day that were stock, and it's common knowledge that no 2 are alike, stock. It seems to be the 04's that get closer to the 400 rwhp mark over the 03's though.
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
You mean going form SD to Mass Air, right?
Thanks - I need to get this done one day .... and there's always good 'ol Brandon LOL!
bubba
Thanks - I need to get this done one day .... and there's always good 'ol Brandon LOL!
bubba
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
and it's common knowledge that no 2 are alike, stock.
A hundred+ different strategy codes a year - WTF is Ford thinking ???
Don't worry - yer secret's safe with 'ol bubba
Ya got me beat - I haven't seen many pulls at all. bubba
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Absolutely - just like these dang trucks LOL!
A hundred+ different strategy codes a year - WTF is Ford thinking ???
Don't worry - yer secret's safe with 'ol bubba Ya got me beat - I haven't seen many pulls at all.
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A hundred+ different strategy codes a year - WTF is Ford thinking ???
Don't worry - yer secret's safe with 'ol bubba
Ya got me beat - I haven't seen many pulls at all. bubba
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
LOL!
Thanks! I gotta go change now - coffee's gonna be a b*itch to get out of this shirt. LOL!
bubba Ooops - what was this thread originally about - sorry fellas LOL! Dang those Canuckians, eh?
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Originally Posted by last5oh_302
Yes, other than for our F150's that is...lol
Yup - losses are losses - and since HP is derived from torque, it's safe to say that the ~30%+ driveline loss applies....
You got a stick - yer lucky
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