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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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im sorry but you will never beat a trans by a couple lengths in a stock mach1, and a stock gt has no chance in hell to beat a ss camaro
Apparently you are not aware of the '05+ GT's. I had an '05 and with just a tune it went 13.0 @ 106. That alone is good enough to edge out all the LS cars. The 3v's are not like the old 14 sec 2 valve GT's. Here what happens when you add a 75 shot and DR's on top of that:

 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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thats one bad stang right there!

I am looking at a black 07 GT today or tomarrow, if I buy I will be slapping on a procharger or whipple within the first month to get into the mid 11's on stock tires
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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hey, Ridge is right. A 4.6 can whoop the 5.4 3v every single time. I do it on a daily basis. I can even beat the Supercharged 5.4 3v guys without any problems at all.
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in a Mustang GT. My 5.4 did pull on my Mustang once (wife was driving the truck). Then I noticed I was only at 1/4 throttle (I was driving the Mustang). Hammer down and the car took off like a rocket and the truck was still in 2nd gear.



here is my interior. need to get some leather.



There is no way a 4.6 TRUCK can beat the 5.4 3v if both trucks are the same style (reg cab, Scab, Screw). Maybe, if a 5.4 is driven like a 80 year old lady drives it. Then the transmission can adapt to that style. Oh yeah, it needs to be a SuperCrew with 6.5' bed. Then you can come along in your regular cab with 5.5' bed. You autta win by a length or 2.

I believe you did beat a 5.4 2v, in a truck that is a few hundred pounds heavier than yours and almost the same HP #'s. Get your facts straight and quick BS'ing yourself. You've been posting alot of crap. And then when questioned, you post more crap and can't even verify your facts before you spout.

btw, the real order of fast cars is:

1. Trans Am WS6 / Firehawk
2. Cobra
3. T/A or SS Camaro
4. Mach 1
5. Mustang GT

I love my GT, but I know the facts for what they are. 281 cubes vs 349 cubes. The Mach1 need more cubes to be competative. The Cobra needs the smaller pulley for more boost and a better tune = 500 RWHP. Then it can take the T/A WS6 with no problems. the #3 and #4 spot are interchangeable depending on the driver.

There is no replacement for displacement.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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common, you know a cobra whoops a transam

Cobra is a better car anyways. Especially when you start modding Look at their values to this day, a high mileage one is still way over 20grand, I could go out and buy a transam for 15grand or less

here is a good site to find cars 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, of course you cant go exactly by it but they all seem correct.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
transam 0-60 in 4.9
cobra 0-60 in 4.5
 

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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Super FX4
common, you know a cobra whoops a transam

Cobra is a better car anyways. Especially when you start modding Look at their values to this day, a high mileage one is still way over 20grand, I could go out and buy a transam for 15grand or less

here is a good site to find cars 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, of course you cant go exactly by it but they all seem correct.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
transam 0-60 in 4.9
cobra 0-60 in 4.5
by #'s, yes the Cobra is the faster car. however, you've got to put some serious money into the IRS (rear end) to get it to hook without destroying something. they are so prone to wheel hop that it's dangerous to do a burnout when it's wet outside. a WS-6 T/A with a good panhard bar and gears will walk a Cobra unless it's rear-end has been built
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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I am not going to even begin arguing the Cobra vs. LSX cars so Superfx4heres some more pics of my old car Did a Boss330 motor with 2.6 KB after I was done playing around with the bottle but never made it to the track.



 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Black3v
I am not going to even begin arguing the Cobra vs. LSX cars so Superfx4heres some more pics of my old car Did a Boss330 motor with 2.6 KB after I was done playing around with the bottle but never made it to the track.





now that is just sickening. I'll bet Ridge can get that installed for free. Just needs some Pizza and a beer. you keep saying "had"...why would you give up a monster like that?
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Wasnt by choice-Old man that shouldnt be driving made the choice for me


btw he might need 2 pizzas for that one
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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that is seriously enough to make me cry...I hate it when stuff like that happens.

looks like part of your S/C is poking through the hood right there. what a waste.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Black3v
Wasnt by choice-Old man that shouldnt be driving made the choice for me


btw he might need 2 pizzas for that one
That is such a heartbreaker!!!


Originally Posted by austinbF150
Ridge, i would like to know were u purchase ur drugs at because thats some good **** ur smokin
And this would have to be the best line is this whole thread.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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There is no way a 4.6 TRUCK can beat the 5.4 3v if both trucks are the same style (reg cab, Scab, Screw). Maybe, if a 5.4 is driven like a 80 year old lady drives it. Then the transmission can adapt to that style. Oh yeah, it needs to be a SuperCrew with 6.5' bed. Then you can come along in your regular cab with 5.5' bed. You autta win by a length or 2.

1. Trans Am WS6 / Firehawk
2. Cobra
3. T/A or SS Camaro
4. Mach 1
5. Mustang GT

I love my GT, but I know the facts for what they are. 281 cubes vs 349 cubes. The Mach1 need more cubes to be competative. The Cobra needs the smaller pulley for more boost and a better tune = 500 RWHP. Then it can take the T/A WS6 with no problems. the #3 and #4 spot are interchangeable depending on the driver.

There is no replacement for displacement.
like i said most 5.4 3v's in my area are supercrew so it wouldnt suprise me if i beat one, i havent lined up with a 3v yet but the 2v's arnet really much of a problem.

and even the new 05+ gts arnt faster then a Ta power wise, i mean they make 300chp and around 265whp but it does become a drivers race with them, like ive said before, ford needs to quit playing and put a 6.2 boss engine in a mustang and call it a day.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Black3v,

Nice Stang and excellent choice on wheels I would go crazy if someone did that to my car.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Wow. I need some scuba gear to get around in all this BS.

Many Cobra guys put solid axles in the rear, but MANY more kept it stock. The IRS is stronger than alot think. One of the supporting vendors for F150online has a Cobra with the IRS that he plans on getting into the 9's with.. already running low 10's.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Love your STANG!
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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this guy is here localy and he is still using the stock irs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWODPbkSjls
 
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