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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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Calling Tuff4rd... HID question

I was on ebay and these look like legit hid's... what do you think... I don't mind the price, I just want the nice cut off, legal hi/lo beam and a nice light light blue/white color...

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NEW 6000K H13 9008 Hi/Lo True Bi Xenon HID Kit

and for FOGS

NEW 6000K 9005 50W White HID Xenon Conversion Kit

They say they have a new technology:

We have taken into our collection of Xenon conversion kits what we believe to be the ultimate Bi-Xenon HID headlamp conversion kits. These new Bi-Xenon High and Low (dual) beam kits is the newest technology and add additional value and safety for you as a Driver.

We are now offering you a solution where you have both Low beam and High beam function in a single lamp. The smart EMAS control system moves the arc by using electromagnetism to create a swift and accurate vertical movement of the light source. By using the very latest in electronics we move the arc to give you both functions in a simple single discharge burner! The burner doesn't shut down during the switching operation and so there is no delay in lighting up. We are offering the quickest, best and simplest solution to convert your car/motorcycle/snowmobile to a true and reliable HID Xenon headlamp system.
Could these really work? I am kinda excited and want to get them, but want to make sure they can work... I think someone said (weazel) that because of the black housing and the way my new headlights are... I should have a nice cut off.... I hope this is true... What do you think?

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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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Hey. I got my HID's installed and the cutoff was NOT good at all. To make it even worse later on in the night my right light would not even come on at all. I am over trying to make HID's work in my headlights...I am a retard for even trying to make them work once again. Oh and plus my left headlight (the angel eye ones) leaks like a **** and I even ran a bead of silicon on the seam of the lights, and in my opinion the black headlights look wierd with the chrome bumper...I am just sticking to stock...screw it!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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I really can't say about those lights you posted As for the cut off, I would guess that you should get a improved cut off VS stock lamps, you having projecters should do the trick. I can't wait to see your results
These are the lamps and color temp I am running, the light is white with a hint of blue almost like a OEM hid color..IMO the 6000k would be too much blue..I have had these lights for about a year and a half with no problems..

BTW, I never really miss my high beams with these lights

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5000K...91634282QQrdZ1
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuff4rd
These are the lamps and color temp I am running, the light is white with a hint of blue almost like a OEM hid color..IMO the 6000k would be too much blue..
OEM HID's are 4300K so like he said, the 5000K's look very close to that. 5000K is the color of sunlight so it is perfectly white. 6000K + are too blue and will fatigue your eye after extended usage, especially in the rain. Here is a pic of my 5000K fogs vs silverstars in the headlights.....see how white they are? I also put a wrap of aluminum foil over the very tip of the HID capsule like the OEM 9145's to cover it so only the light reflected from the housing comes out and virtually eliminates the glare I had before from the direct light off of the capsule (basically like looking at an arc weld).

 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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They color isn't really the sellling point, I wanted to know if they looked legit.... I mean for 300 they should be and they dont look cheap... 5000k or 6000k... thanks for the comparison Matt... I think i am going to go with the 5k... but wanted to know if this kit looked good... oh... I was at the dealership getting my service and bought some Motorcraft Ultra Silicone Sealant... Can i put that around my lights to prevent the leak?? I haven't washed the truck yet and am kinda afraid to...
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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It's not really the kit that makes them look cheap or expensive.....its the housing they are mounted in. All that kit is is a bulb that replaces your stock bulb. If you still have regular halogen reflectors and not projectors, then the light output will not have a clean cutoff and have a lot of glare. The foglights work great though because they are designed with a sharp cutoff, that's why I only got them in the fogs and they work wonders!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Xenondepot sells kits. I got a set for my Lexus 2 years ago and they work great! I got 4300K.

Steve is very helpful and they are quality kits
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt 05'FX4
I also put a wrap of aluminum foil over the very tip of the HID capsule like the OEM 9145's to cover it so only the light reflected from the housing comes out and virtually eliminates the glare I had before from the direct light off of the capsule (basically like looking at an arc weld).
Got any pics of the placement of foil on the capsule? It is on the capsule not on the glass right or is that what you mean?
I need to do the same on mine....

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DTheobald
I think someone said (weazel) that because of the black housing and the way my new headlights are... I should have a nice cut off.... I hope this is true... What do you think?
That is impossible. The cutoff will be worse and you'll have more glare (unuseable light). The only way to improve the cutoff is to use actual HID projectors.

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by F150 Duke
That is impossible. The cutoff will be worse and you'll have more glare (unuseable light). The only way to improve the cutoff is to use actual HID projectors.

Duke
I didn't say the cutoff would be perfect but would be better than most stock headlights... I saw some projectors but don't have the mechanical or electrical knowledge to install them myself...
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DTheobald
I didn't say the cutoff would be perfect but would be better than most stock headlights... I saw some projectors but don't have the mechanical or electrical knowledge to install them myself...
I understand not being able to do the projectors as it does require a fair amount of work. However, the other headlights still won't even improve the cutoff to a visible degree. I mean you could say that production variables of the reflector could make one headlight better then another due to production variances. However, we're talking variances that won't be easily visible to the human eye.

These reflector headlights will not have a substantially or even visibly improved cutoff because the headlight is painted black. It's the silve reflector that creates the cutoff and that is the same in the OEM headlight and the "harley" looking style.

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by F150 Duke
I understand not being able to do the projectors as it does require a fair amount of work. However, the other headlights still won't even improve the cutoff to a visible degree. I mean you could say that production variables of the reflector could make one headlight better then another due to production variances. However, we're talking variances that won't be easily visible to the human eye.

These reflector headlights will not have a substantially or even visibly improved cutoff because the headlight is painted black. It's the silve reflector that creates the cutoff and that is the same in the OEM headlight and the "harley" looking style.

Duke

Well you just totally confused the hell out of me

I see somewhat of a cutoff on the pic I took of the stock compared to the new headlights but I know its not perfect...



I don't need the perfect hid lights or cutoffs, but it would be nice to get a semi nice kit... You can't get perfect or close to perfect unless you make your own or just buy a damn bmw or lexus, Maybe that's what i should do ... wishful thinking
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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Coming from me when I had the black angel eye projector headlights...the cutoff still isnt too good. I still blinded the hell out of oncoming drivers when the lights actually worked.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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You do know you cannot use the "autolamp" setting on your headlight. You have to turn it to the right instead and manually turn it on if you have HID's. There is not enough current (constant 12v) with auto-on.

Second, if that is not the problem then you need to run a relay, it's not difficult at all and after it burnt up my stock wiring harness for not going with a relay, I finally built one. So glad I did, no more flickering and I can use the auto setting if I choose to do so now.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Josiah
You do know you cannot use the "autolamp" setting on your headlight. You have to turn it to the right instead and manually turn it on if you have HID's. There is not enough current (constant 12v) with auto-on.

Second, if that is not the problem then you need to run a relay, it's not difficult at all and after it burnt up my stock wiring harness for not going with a relay, I finally built one. So glad I did, no more flickering and I can use the auto setting if I choose to do so now.

I don't use the Autolamp anyway...recently it has been on just parking lights and fogs... How does the relay work... got any pics? Thanks
 
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