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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Price Match

Realy has little to do with the actual truck, however.
I am shopping around for the edge programer and happened upon a store that does price matching. This store happens to be a site sponsor. So anyway I go along and keep shopping around. Now it occurs to me why the hell would I want to go with a company that price matches. If this company is so great why wouldn't they try to give me the best price possible? I know the real anwer to that question, but that is crap. I have decicded even if the company gets great reviews and everyone says that they are the best there is no way I would buy from them. To me if you can't provide your coustomers the best service possible unless you are going to lose them to another store you don't deserve my money. Sorry for the rant, but the vendors should be striving to provide the best bang for the buck and than they will get more people coming thier way.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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I agree with some of your rage. YES, we should be able to get the best deal on the product we are looking at; from the beginning. However this is where shopping for us begins. Locations of the business, cost of living(per region), Ability and volume of dealer; Advertisement of business. ALL of these factors play a role in whether you can get the best price the first time from the dealer you want. I for example am currently in New Mexico and had never heard of Troyer Performance, Truck racing Parts or Discount power parts before I was a member. So If I was not a memeber I would have probably gone to a local off road shop(closest one) 250 mile round trip who would have asked for MSRP 500 +tax for the item and I would have paid it(if I wanted it) regardless. But because I choose to shop-around and know that they go for less and know of the internet I always welcome the opportunity for a dealer to meet or exceed a price that was quoted to me by another competitor. Some dealers are able to buy larger volumes of merchandise and get a discount and others cannot afford as much inventory and buy only as the need arises when people have paid. Also some dealers will give you a really good price on some itmes or "take a hit" and make up the rest of the money on other purchases.NOTHING IS FREE. They say "a sucker is born every minute". And as long as people don't shop around and look for the best price online, or around town, there will continue to be dealers that will charge MSRP for every item sold. Dealers who price match are trying to remain in business and competitive just so they don't lose a sale. They really don't know what the item is selling for in Florida if their business is in Washington. And if in Florida they are the hottest thing on the market and you can't keep them on the shelf(price increase). In Ohio they are rotting on the shelves because no one is buying(price decrease). It does make me angry that right after you purchase something you find out you could have had it cheaper but that was my fault for jumping the gun and not looking around. I'm glad that a dealer is willing to price match because it gives me options. Specially if I had a bad experience with a company that offers great prices. Sometimes the larger companies do that. offer great prices(because they can afford to buy in bulk) but customer service sucks because they have so many customers they don't care if you buy from them or not.And the smaller companies charge more becasue their profit margin needs to be greater, but when asked will offer a price match to earn your business and then you'll tell your friends about the good service and it will increase the sales and reputation of the smaller company. I think it all boils down to being an informed buyer, and if ANY dealer is willing to meet or beat a price on anything it tells me they want your business and are eager to make a sale. It's the way of business and it benefits us.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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The thing maybe you dont realize is that not all vendors pay the same for the same parts. So a smaller company may list a part for a price that they think is fair, if someone comes along and says that big guy is selling it for less, then they have 2 choices, say sorry buy it from them, or match the price, at a possible loss!! just to keep the customer. why would a company list a product at a price they cant make money at? Most of the vendors on here have very fair prices, they offer pricematching as a service to people, to gain their business, and hopefully make more sales in the future
 
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jersey51
Sorry for the rant, but the vendors should be striving to provide the best bang for the buck and than they will get more people coming thier way.
Pretty obvious you don't own, or never will own a business.

Customer service should be number one, but you have to make money. If you own a business, you are in it to make as much money as you can because you are writing your own paychecks.

Selling at a reasonable price and then matching it if someone goes lower is great. Im not for price gouging, but if someone wants my business bad enough to match a competitors ad, I like it.

If you don't like price matching stay away from most retail stores. In fact, I would probably just give up and shop on eBay and hope no one matches prices on there.

I actually saw a national chain called out on their price matching policy yesterday on toilet paper of all things... lol
 
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Gee thanks for the education fordwask. If you read the whole post you would see that I did post that I know why they do it. I know they have to make money. The same things happens everywhere, when you go to buy your new car for example- to tell you the truth they are probably the worst. What I posted was as you quoted me a rant. That is pissin and moanin. It was not a question, I know how a bussiness works no need to get all pissy. A $100 dollar price difference on a product that is being sold in the 350 range is a bit much. What my point is you will get more costumers when your prices are good to begin with, rather than saying oh you found it cheaper else where well in that case we can afford to sell it to you cheaper just to get your bussiness. I understand the whole logic behind it, I know what the goals are. However it is bullcrap. When you consitently provide good service and good prices word gets around. This sends more people your way. Which in turns makes you more money. That being said, there is more to being a good bussiness person than making as much money as you possibly can, ethics can go along way. So that being the case I would rather have a good reputation and know that I am providing the people that are putting food on my table, the best service I can. It gets around alot quicker when your service sucks or you prices are always high unless you price match or discount. To me it means more to be a stand up guy from the get go. That is the guy I will go back to time and time again, even if the price is a little high every once and a while. And yes you read that right, I will pay more for something even when I know I don't have to, as long as I am dealing with a standup guy that does the best for me everytime he see's me. Not just when he thinks I am going to go somewhere else.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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And yes you read that right, I will pay more for something even when I know I don't have to, as long as I am dealing with a standup guy that does the best for me everytime he see's me. Not just when he thinks I am going to go somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

How do you know the guy that's price matching isn't a stand up guy. So here is your scenerio: You are looking to buy a sack of potatoes, store A has them for $5 but is willing sell them for less if you can find someone else that has them for less even though they buy those potatoes for $3 a sack from their distributer. You jump on the internet and find Store B who has those same exact potatoes for $2.50. Store B buys 5000 sacks of potatoes a week from the same distributer as store A but he sells them to him for $2 a sack because he buys so many. Later on you find out that you need some apples. Store A has them for $2 and B has them for $4. Store A can sell them for less because they buy 5000 a week and the distributer is willing to sell them to him for $1 because he buys so many. Store B sells them for more than store A because he doesn't buy as many from the distributer because apples just aren't very popular in his town just like potatoes aren't very popular in store A's town. In your world though there's no way you will go to store A because he jacked up his prices for potatoes and he's not a standup guy because he's willing to match a better price just to get your business. So is store B not jacking up his prices even though his apples cost more than store A's? In your world if you had been looking for apples before potatoes you would think A is the stand up guy and B is not giving you the "bang for your buck". Your rant just isn't very logical and what these guys are doing is basic economics.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Gee thanks for the education fordwask.

anytime.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Well thank you. I am not comparing apples and oranges. I am talking about the edge tuner that one person was selling for hundred dollars more. That is what my rant was directed at. There is no way you can tell me that there is not a huge mark up in between source A selling at 339 and B at 459. I know how it works, what I am stating is that the basic principle of supply and demand jacking the bottom line price to consumers is taken to excess. If it were not we would not have nearly the public debt that is so prevalant today. We would not have Suadi kings living in million dollar mansions because they have the oil that we need. We would not have exxon taking money hand over fist because of a reported oil shortage that never existed just becuase they could. My gripe goes beyond the local level seller, it goes all the way up to the big bussiness that knows they can screw the little man. Can you tell me how it is fair that due to economics exxon made a record 35 billion last year. Go ahead and tell me about how low the profit margin was. Bullcrap this is after salary and all regular bussiness expenses, this is pure profit. I know a lot more about this than you may think so you I don't need an economic lesson. My original rant was about the edge product and 1 companies price gouge that they justified with price matching. Bottom line as I stated before the merchant should be providing the best service for the best price period.

sorry had to edit, misread an earlier post
 

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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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I'm surprised that nobody in this thread mentioned Minimized Advertised Pricing or MAP, for short. Vendors that use MAP generally have their sellers sign a contract that states they will not advertise one of their products for lower than $x. Some vendors are respectful of that, others are not. When you find the absolutely lowest price on some of the products that are being discussed here, the price is well below MAP and the manufacturer is likely not aware the price is being listed that cheaply.

Any respectable vendor that cares about customer service and long term relationships with product manufacturers and distributors will abide by these rules. That is one reason that our own online store will rarely show the lowest price. Just something else to think about when comparing prices and wondering why some say they will price match. (note that I am not speaking for any vendor's policies on this forum, just my own personal experience)
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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Well thank you. I am not comparing apples and oranges. I am talking about the edge tuner that one person was selling for hundred dollars more. That is what my rant was directed at. There is no way you can tell me that there is not a huge mark up in between source A selling at 339 and B at 459. I know how it works, what I am stating is that the basic principle of supply and demand jacking the bottom line price to consumers is taken to excess. If it were not we would not have nearly the public debt that is so prevalant today. We would not have Suadi kings living in million dollar mansions because they have the oil that we need. We would not have exxon taking money hand over fist because of a reported oil shortage that never existed just becuase they could. My gripe goes beyond the local level seller, it goes all the way up to the big bussiness that knows they can screw the little man. Can you tell me how it is fair that due to economics exxon made a record 35 billion last year. Go ahead and tell me about how low the profit margin was. Bullcrap this is after salary and all regular bussiness expenses, this is pure profit. I know a lot more about this than you may think so you I don't need an economic lesson. My original rant was about the edge product and 1 companies price gouge that they justified with price matching. Bottom line as I stated before the merchant should be providing the best service for the best price period.

sorry had to edit, misread an earlier post
Ahhh...capitalism.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Jersey, you are one of those guys that would drive 100 miles to save $20. You are the reason alot of businesses wont price match. I dont know who you are trying to fool acting like you listen to Boortz or whatever running it about profit margin, why dont all business owners just give everything away at no profit, would that make you happy? Do you flip out when you go into Wal Mart and see something $50 cheaper than in Radio Shack? You probably go and argue with the 18 year old Radio Shack manager and try to give him a business lesson. One guy on here said buy it on ebay, ebay is the way to go if you wanna get it cheap, not retailers. I own my own business and the argument that if you sell it cheaper more will come is a crook of &^%#. The internet has taken that business model right off the map. All it does is attract bottom feeders who beat on you all day to save $1 on something. The internet is just too easy to use my friend for people who want the best deal. Maybe not customer service, but certainly the best deal. When we are saying customer service, we are not talking about how nice they are on the phone, when your part isnt fitting right or not working properly, go to a business and waste their time since you didnt buy it there. I deal with cats like you all the time Bro, stop the capitalism bashing and go vote for Hillary in '08, maybe she can get you stuff for cost and maybe, just maybe, some free health care. Ben
 

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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You crack me up jersey, if I am up that way we need to go grab a brew
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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how many ceu's is this thread worth?
 
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Ben I think you mistook what I was stating about profit margin. What I was tallking about is exxon made record profits and justified it by stating that they have a low profit margin. Profit margin is fine, but they can't tell me that $35billion is reasonable. Keep in mind this is exxon alone, this does not include all the other potroleum distributors. I may have mistitled my thread, it is directed more at price gouging in reality. More so though flagrent price gouging such as the example in my earlier post that got me on a tear anyway. As for the beer, I'm always up.

CEU's, I will keep it at a modest $42 per credit. That will keep my profit somewhere in the area of $39.52
 
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