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Old 02-18-2015, 12:51 PM
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06 5.4 issue

Hey guys I have a 06 Screw with 5.4 so far 155k trouble free miles, until today. Let me start by saying about a year ago I had the truck go into "engine failsafe mode" no power and it quit running...I threw it in neutral and restarted right away with no other issues. Fast forward to today, I let it warm up 5 minutes as its cold here, get out on the road and try to get up to speed and she starts bucking. I came to a light and stopped to make a right and she died again, restarted immediatley and got home. Anytime I tried to give it more than half throttle it would hesitate and buck. If I went easy I can reach any speed and the engine is smooth, cruising 70 its smooth try to accell to make a pass and it starts bucking hard. Smooth as silk at idle and never threw a code. Tune up was done at 135k with motorcraft parts.

Truck has been factory stock its whole life....
 

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Specifically what was replaced in the "tuneup"? This sounds like it could be bad coils, clogged fuel filter (change every 30k!), defective plugs, a bad tank of gas, or dirty fuel injectors. The fail-safe is often caused by a dirty throttle body, has it ever been cleaned?

I would get it scanned for any OBD2 codes, both hard codes and pending codes.
 
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How many miles on the plugs? has the throttle body and MAF ever been cleaned?
 
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Old 02-18-2015, 02:11 PM
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The tune up was plugs and coils, motorcraft. Plugs have around 25k miles on em. Maf has been cleaned but not the throttle body. I changed the fuel filter at 100k so it needs to be done again. I just drove it up to refill my propane tank maybe half a mile distance, and now it barely wants to run. Doesnt feel like a miss, more like the engine quits for a second and picks back up then dies again until I let off the throttle and itll idle for a minute before it quits running.

I have to wait for my buddy to bring over his fuel pressure gauge.

Still no codes
 

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Old 02-18-2015, 02:13 PM
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Most throttle bodies need to be cleaned at about 100,000 miles. A dirty one can send the engine into failsafe mode.
 
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Depending on where you are(corrosion), could be the FPDM needs replacing.
 
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Originally Posted by TopGunn5.4
The tune up was plugs and coils, motorcraft. Plugs have around 25k miles on em. Maf has been cleaned but not the throttle body. I changed the fuel filter at 100k so it needs to be done again. I just drove it up to refill my propane tank maybe half a mile distance, and now it barely wants to run. Doesnt feel like a miss, more like the engine quits for a second and picks back up then dies again until I let off the throttle and itll idle for a minute before it quits running.

I have to wait for my buddy to bring over his fuel pressure gauge.

Still no codes
1. Need a scantool to read the FP PID - no Schrader valve fer a gauge.

2. You need a good scanner to pull pending / Mode $06 misfire codes

3. FPDM: https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...placement.html

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Is this good? Lol I think i found the problem
 
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Old 02-18-2015, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGunn5.4


Is this good? Lol I think i found the problem
Bingo!

Replace with a Motorcraft FPDM, not Dorman if ye can, and don't fergit to use them standoffs.

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Old 02-18-2015, 05:20 PM
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Got the new one on with the updated bolts to hold it off the frame. I coated the underside with some grease also. I went ahead and cleaned the TB and MAF threw a new fuel filter on. Shes back to running good.

Thanks Guys!
 
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:24 PM
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Glad you got it fixed!
 
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