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Old 03-20-2014, 05:38 PM
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Rattle on start up

2004 5.4l 3v. I'm getting a short loud rattle that last about 3 seconds when i start the engine . it only happens on cold starts, loud enough to hear in the cab and make people give me weird looks lol. Sorry if this has been posted before.. any ideas? using the recommended 5w20.
 
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:09 PM
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What brand oil filter are you using? If it's not a Motorcraft, replace it.
 
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:35 PM
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Hi.

Hydraulic timing chain tensioners not filling rapidly enough or weak. Chain itself, or guides. Beware. How many miles on the engine?

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Old 03-20-2014, 11:18 PM
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Both above suggestions are right on. The 3v engines are more prone to lash adjuster noise during startup if a oil filter is bleeding down then a 2v. Thats because the 3v lash adjusters are designed to bleed down slightly so at start up there is a reduction in emissions from the engine the 2v lash adjusters stay pumped completely unless they are starting to get weak/fail.
 
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:09 AM
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Oh wow sounds scary. Engine has 132k on it, fram oil filter unfortuneately. Gonna do an oil change this weekend with motorcraft
 
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Fram filters SPECIFICALLY cause this. They do not have an adequate anti-drainback valve.
 
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:10 PM
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may be a dumb question but will doing an oil change with a motorcraft oil filter eliminate this? or is the damage already done..
 
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 97isnotold
may be a dumb question but will doing an oil change with a motorcraft oil filter eliminate this? or is the damage already done..
Hi.

Low-hanging fruit. Will not hurt to try. The sooner you get rid of that Fram the better.

Good luck!


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Old 03-21-2014, 07:12 PM
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alright, just picked up a motorcraft oil filter and some 5w 30 to help quiet things down a bit. hopefully it helps, thanks for the help guys,
 
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:24 PM
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I wouldn't use 5w30 in a 3 valve - use 5w20.
 



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