Did my timing chain really jump??

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Old 03-04-2012, 04:25 PM
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Angry Did my timing chain really jump??

So i have a bit of a situation at hand here. Yesterday my truck threw the codes P0345 and P0349, and it idles and runs like s***! I cleared the codes and restarted the engine 3x total, the same codes appeared all 3x.

Ive read many possibilities, but ive checked all connections so i dont believe its electrical related. The truck does start and idle, but its horrible and not really drivable.

So im wondering if my timing chain may have jumped? I do have the ability to datalog with my x3 and view them, does anyone know how i could determine if my engine timing was off via datalog? If so this would be an easy way to determine without having to pull the timing cover, etc.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 04:27 PM
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Also the passenger side exhaust sound is perfectly normal, but the driver side exhaust sounds like its missing and is just completely unnatural sounding compared to normal.

I should also note i swapped the bank 1 and bank 2 sensor, and it still resulted in a bank 2 error, so the sensor is not bad.

I guess im trying to determine if timing is off or if there is an electrical connection problem somewhere. If anyone has pinouts of the pcm plugs as well that would help me, so i can check it with my fluke.
 

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Old 03-04-2012, 07:09 PM
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Do you know what kind of truck it is ? See if you can figure out which engine it has as well.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
Do you know what kind of truck it is ? See if you can figure out which engine it has as well.
You used to be more imaginative!

OK, I'll GUESS....it's an 04+ with vct, so datalog all four pids under variable cam...just a guess.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:50 PM
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Are you guys not able to see my sig?? Its all there 2007 f150 fx4 5.4 3v

No sarcasm intended, just wondering if its not workin right.
 

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Old 03-04-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ONELOWF
You used to be more imaginative!
I know , what happened ?
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOut07
Are you guys not able to see my sig?? Its all there 2007 f150 fx4 5.4 3v

No sarcasm intended, just wondering if its not workin right.
No sig. You need to check the box, = "show sig".

Like this.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:23 PM
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Hey, mine isn't working as well ?? Somethings broke lol.

Oh well, just fill your info in so that it displays , -top right corner.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:24 PM
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Ok thank you, well sorry about that guys didnt know it wasnt showing up.

But again its a 5.4 3v F150.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
Hey, mine isn't working as well ?? Somethings broke lol.
Now that you've got him pawin' the ground Brew, it's time you step up to the plate and Help The Man! Your mood will be a lot better when you get that compressor "on line".
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:55 PM
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I'm sure you already know this info but better not to assume. P0345, Camshaft position sensor "A" circuit malfunction, Bank2. Then click on this.
http://www.obd-codes.com/p0345
As you can see, they say it's not a slam dunk, BUT at least it does give SOME help, whether it's usable for you or not, we can only hope possibly. The price was right anyway.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:10 PM
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Yeah ive researched the codes all freakin day, still doing it at the moment. Im fairly certain its a timing issue, but i would love to verify that via a simple datalog rather than pulling the cover to find its not timing related. im just not sure what to look at on the datalog to determine if my timing is off some.

Tomorrow ill start fine tooth combing my wiring to try be more certain its not the issue. But again if i knew what to look for on the datalog it would save a lot of trouble.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by code58
Now that you've got him pawin' the ground Brew, it's time you step up to the plate and Help The Man! Your mood will be a lot better when you get that compressor "on line".
It's been online, since last Friday. I've been meaning to update that thread.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:55 PM
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BTW- I have know idea why the the OP thinks the Timing chain has jumped. That just doesn't happen. If so, that's news to me.

He has a CPS problem. Change the sensor.
 
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:40 PM
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Ive switched sensors on bank 1 and 2, and got the same results so the sensors arent bad, i think. Im going to tripple check continuity, connections, and sensors tomorrow.

Does anyone have the pinout for the pcm plugs to check sensor-to-pcm continuity? I just started searching for it. Ill post back tomorrow and go from there.
 

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