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Old 04-11-2011, 12:28 PM
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5.0 HP and Torque Ratings?

A few articles I have read suggest that Ford may be "sand-bagging" their HP and Torque numbers for the new 5.0 engine.

What do you guys think?
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It would be nice if this is true. Maybe (if true) they did so it would help sales of the Ecoboost trucks. I have no way of telling. I taded a 2001 4.6 for my 2011 5.0. It's a whole different universe comparing the 2001 4.6 with the new 5.0.
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I was thinking maybe they were trying to boost 6.2 liter sales. I've read that the 6.2 performance isn't that much better than the 5.0 but the mileage is worse and the upgrade is $3000. Maybe trying to boost the sales of that AND the Eco-Boost. The 5.0 will probably be the top sales no matter what.
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They have no reason whatsoever to try to boost 6.2 sales - if anything, they need to make it HARDER to get. Every 6.2 they sell in the F-150 hurts Ford's CAFE numbers.

That's why it's a $3000 option and only available in the top end trucks. Super Dutys don't count for CAFE - yet.
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Then it makes sense that, if true, it's more to push the Eco-Boost.
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the numbers are SAE. the cams are smaller and compression lower than a GT. 360 is believable.
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If you remember back in 1998 the Mustang Cobra was getting 305 hp. Then in 1999 they bumped it up (supposedly) to 320 hp. We were running the Cobras day and night seven days a week trying to achieve those numbers. Dearborn Dyno said they were getting the 320 hp but at Romeo we could never get more than around 300-310. There was a lot of debate on that subject and of course Romeo lost the argument. They produced the 99 and advertised 320 hp. Well some Mustang guys were getting beat by Camaros etc and were not happy. A few put their engines on Dynos and lo and behold they were not getting the advertised Hp. They now had proof and took it to court winning a lawsuit. Ford stopped production of the Cobra for 2000 MY. During that time we were testing different intake configurations,etc to get the hp numbers right and eventually were getting over 320 with tha engine. The Cobra came back in 2001 with an engine actually getting several hp more than the advertised 320hp. This is why Ford "sandbags"on the advertised hp and torque specs. Of course those of us at Romeo who were running those engines and had told Dearborn the 99 Cobras were short hp couldn't get enough of the we "told you so" which was not very popular at the time...Rest assured your 5.0, 6.2 whatever is actually making at least a few more hp than is being advertised.
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...Rest assured your 5.0, 6.2 whatever is actually making at least a few more hp than is being advertised.
How much more are a few?

I was trying to decide between the Dodge and the Ford. The 390hp of the 5.7 Hemi was very tempting. It would be nice if I was getting closer to that than 360hp
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How much more are a few?

I was trying to decide between the Dodge and the Ford. The 390hp of the 5.7 Hemi was very tempting. It would be nice if I was getting closer to that than 360hp
well the hemi does have .7 lieters more so the 5.0 is pretty much on par
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How much more are a few?

I was trying to decide between the Dodge and the Ford. The 390hp of the 5.7 Hemi was very tempting. It would be nice if I was getting closer to that than 360hp
The Mustang is smaller so the power to weight ratio give the Mustang better ET'ss. The Mustangs beat the challengers and the Camaros. Last comparison I saw anyways..
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well the hemi does have .7 lieters more so the 5.0 is pretty much on par
I have the 5.0. it has plenty of power. how could you buy a dodge in the first place. Someone on this site already raced a hemi and lost by a second or less. So Dodge can take there 390 7 liter and stick it up there a... Ford will always be a superior truck!
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Someone on this site already raced a hemi and lost by a second or less.
That's interesting. Was there a post on this?

I'm much happier with the Ford. My neighbor has the Dodge and I like everything about my Ford better. Plus, I think the Ford is just plain built better.

I just like HP. The 6.2 liter wasn't available in the trim level I was considering. If I could have gotten that in the XLT, would have.
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That's interesting. Was there a post on this?

I'm much happier with the Ford. My neighbor has the Dodge and I like everything about my Ford better. Plus, I think the Ford is just plain built better.

I just like HP. The 6.2 liter wasn't available in the trim level I was considering. If I could have gotten that in the XLT, would have.
I cant remember off the top of my head which post is was. Someone posted something about the 5.0s engine performance. someone commented on thread that they raced a hemi on the track and if i remember correctly, it beat it off the line, the hemi finally caught it passed it and won by a sec or less.
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That sounds good to me. Low-end punch is what you want from a truck. I have the 3.73 rear and 5.0 and it really gets going off the line.
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I use my truck as a daily driver and to go fishing, no towing for me. I like the power it has on the highway. So which one you looking to buy?
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