Nickel Anti Seize

rkd · #1 10-06-2009, 11:39 PM

What is a common brand or part number for nickel anti seize?

And where do you get it?

The common parts stores seem not to have a clue..

And I put the plugs in my 4.6 with plain old regular antisieze on the threads. Will this cause any problems?

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f150fella08 · #2 10-06-2009, 11:48 PM

i dont think your suppose to put it on spark plugs...

**Bluejay** · #3 10-06-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by f150fella08

i dont think your suppose to put it on spark plugs...

You use it on the shank of the plugs for the 5.4. You don't use any anti-seize on sparkplug threads. They are coated so as not to react with the aluminum and the anti-seize can mess up the torquing.

**Bluejay** · #4 10-06-2009, 11:59 PM

The nickel is needed on the shank of the 5.4 plugs because it is high heat and will help the plug keep from building up carbon on the shank.

rkd · #5 10-07-2009, 01:30 AM

Thanks.

I have taken to using the common version of anti seize on nearly anythng that I plan to take apart again. Wheel lug nuts, suspension bolts, tie rod and ball joint tapers, balancers, etc. Also on sparkplugs in iron and aluminum heads. It seems to work on my Yamaha Waverunner plugs. Started using it on outboard motor bolts, everywhere.

So far, that approach seems to have paid off in ease of subsequent disassembly.

Still looking for the name/brand/part number of the nickel based stuff.

Patman03SprCrw · #6 10-07-2009, 01:33 AM

Pep Boys carries it in a silver bottle, about the size of a rubber cement bottle, usually on the back parts counter shelving right in front of the counter

I believe its like 7 or 8 bucks, its more then you'll need, but maybe you can ask if they have it in a smaller package

Paralyzer · #7 10-07-2009, 03:32 AM

I wouldnt put any anti seize on those threads. 2v heads have a hard time keeping the plugs in as it is especially in a 97 like yours. Put them in dry and torque to 13ft/lbs.

F150NJ · #8 10-07-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rkd

Still looking for the name/brand/part number of the nickel based stuff.

Here are the details, part numbers, and prices on every kind of anti-seize you've ever heard of and maybe a few you haven't:

http://www.neverseezproducts.com/antiseize.htm

glc · #9 10-07-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paralyzer

I wouldnt put any anti seize on those threads. 2v heads have a hard time keeping the plugs in as it is especially in a 97 like yours. Put them in dry and torque to 13ft/lbs.

28 ft/lb, please.

www.blownoutsparkplug.com - FAQ #49.

Motorcraft plugs have nickel plated threads and should NOT be used with antiseize, ESPECIALLY in those 4 thread heads. If you are not using Motorcraft plugs, you SHOULD be.

I asked those guys about antiseize, here is their response:

Quote:

We do not ever use anti-seize compounds.
We always use nickel plated spark plugs (i.e. Motorcraft SP Series) as
they are designed to address the bi-metal issues.

Dave
Blownoutsparkplug

Paralyzer · #10 10-07-2009, 03:55 PM

the 13 ft/lb spec is direct from my online workshop manual on inford. But if these guys know there stuff thats good info.

glc · #11 10-07-2009, 10:39 PM

Yes, the manual says that. This is a major contributing factor to them launching.

code58 · #12 10-08-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Patman03SprCrw

Pep Boys carries it in a silver bottle, about the size of a rubber cement bottle, usually on the back parts counter shelving right in front of the counter

I believe its like 7 or 8 bucks, its more then you'll need, but maybe you can ask if they have it in a smaller package

Are you sure that's the nickel high temp anti-seize? Sounds more like regular anti-seize. The nickel is hard to find and runs about $20. for a bottle.

Patman03SprCrw · #13 10-08-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by code58

Are you sure that's the nickel high temp anti-seize? Sounds more like regular anti-seize. The nickel is hard to find and runs about $20. for a bottle.

im pretty sure yea, i cant find anything on their website because its a piece of crap.

BLUE20004X4 · #14 10-09-2009, 11:56 AM

The stuff you seek is also at the dealer, Motorcraft has some decent lubes and sprays etc. The better stuff I use is from Permatex, I anti-seize anything, and yes, this includes the spark plugs I changed 70-80k km's ago on my 2v 5.4. Now, I coated lightly mind you and probably tightened a hair more than the spec but (cross my fingers) no problems. I am looking to do another plug change very soon so if any problems I will correct my paragraph here with a bunch of sad smiley faces>>>>>

The best place to use anti-seize is on the brake assemblies, bieng careful not to get any on the pad friction surface, works great.

Quintin · #15 10-09-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUE20004X4

The best place to use anti-seize is on the brake assemblies, bieng careful not to get any on the pad friction surface, works great.

Anti seize is petroleum based.

Please don't use petroleum based lubricants on brakes.

There are high temperature silicone based lubricants for this.