As some of you may know, I had a recent malfunction that left me wondering if I had a TC shudder or a low grade misfire. It turned out to be a TC shudder and a good flush fixed it (so it seems).
However, prior to the flush I went ahead and purchased some COPS (eight of them) from Global Automotive on Ebay. They arrived fairly quick, but upon removal of the old I quickly realized that I had ordered the wrong ones. They are VERY similar, except for the boots and springs (about 1/2" too long).
I contacted Global and they basically said "tough luck, chump!". They will not exchange them, even though 7 are un-opened and one was never even attempted to be installed, and I offering to pay shipping both ways.
Now to my question. The coils themselves are exact in every visual dimension (less the boots and springs). The coils I purchased are for a 2004 5.4 - Does anyone know how "interchangeable" these are, as in my buying just the boots and springs?
I can get the boots and springs from Napa. The numbers on my coils are:
EE03A
3L3U-12A366 BB
2B2532
The numbers on they one's I received are:
EE03A
3L3E-12A366-CA
8B0113
Anyone know? I may have a full set of brand new COPS for sale well under what they cost on Ebay...
Can't you just swap out the boots and springs on your old cop's to the new ones. this is what I had to do due to the same issue. Got mine and noticed they were too long so I just cleaned and swapped em..
Can't you just swap out the boots and springs on your old cop's to the new ones. this is what I had to do due to the same issue. Got mine and noticed they were too long so I just cleaned and swapped em..
I was considering that if the actual packs themselves are same (fires the same, not hotter / not colder).
One thing that I was told is that many time it isnt the actual packs that go bad, but a weakening in the boot wall that can cause a misfire, and that it is sometimes difficult to identify.
Sell them to someone who has an 04+. Uneek supply has been better for exchanges and they sell the same coil on e-bay. Just get new ones. Some one out there will buy them wrong coils off you..
Sell them to someone who has an 04+. Uneek supply has been better for exchanges and they sell the same coil on e-bay. Just get new ones. Some one out there will buy them wrong coils off you..
Damn, so these will not work right on our trucks? I recieved the same ones from global recently and told them I had 2005 truck. Am I in the same boat.........
I'm missing something. YOu said the new ones are for a 2004+ 5.4. What engine do you have? Your profile says you have a 2004. Is it a 4.6 or Heritege?
I with ya? sounds like it is and that he got the DG511's and needs the DG508's. If you put 04 F150 in global's serch box it comes up with the DG511. But if you look at the pics for the DG508 and DG511 there is a noticeable difference. I would order the right set and sell the other ones to one of my bud's around here for what I paid for them. But that's just me
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Gryphon Tuner
Gotts Intake
Bone Stock for now or at least apears to be.
Obviously there is something weird about this particular make / model and engine size. I found one online store that sales my COPS for a mere $80 EACH!
What I am hoping is that someone can tell me is that the numbers on the coils represent:
The coil itself.
The boot.
The spring.
If that were the case (very wishful thinking) then the coils would work (re-using or new boots and springs).
Obviously there is something weird about this particular make / model and engine size. I found one online store that sales my COPS for a mere $80 EACH!
What I am hoping is that someone can tell me is that the numbers on the coils represent:
The coil itself.
The boot.
The spring.
If that were the case (very wishful thinking) then the coils would work (re-using or new boots and springs).
Wish I could help out more but I do know you have the same ones I just put on my truck. I had to reuse my boots and springs like you are saying because they are longer than the ones on my truck. I have yet to find out why they are longer too............ Maybe someone will chime it with the know all.
Obviously there is something weird about this particular make / model and engine size. I found one online store that sales my COPS for a mere $80 EACH!
What I am hoping is that someone can tell me is that the numbers on the coils represent:
The coil itself.
The boot.
The spring.
If that were the case (very wishful thinking) then the coils would work (re-using or new boots and springs).
for crying out loud. is it a new body or heritage edition? heritage edition is still the 97-03 body. what year range did the cop advertisement say? did it say 04-09? 04-07? 08-09? they changed the heads in late 07 for the new plugs. i havent seen the new coils or boots so i dont know how different they are if they are different at all. but you may have the new style boots depending on which year range the set is for.
Matt: It is not the Heritage. I have always considered that "make" a left-over 03 - late production. ...sorry if I offend, but the 04 is the new style.
Nut: Mine looks like the second picture you have posted. However, non of the "ford reference number"(s) match.
I have yet to find, online or in person, an actual matching OEM COP.
Matt: It is not the Heritage. I have always considered that "make" a left-over 03 - late production. ...sorry if I offend, but the 04 is the new style.
Nut: Mine looks like the second picture you have posted. However, non of the "ford reference number"(s) match.
I have yet to find, online or in person, an actual matching OEM COP.
ok the second one is the DG511's and are for the "New Body Style F150 5.4L 3 vlave" 04 to 06's and the DG511 number is all you should need to know. As Matt said there was a change in late 07 and I don't think anyone has seen the new style from Global or Uneek yet. They are to new for replacement parts yet. So now with that established did you order the DG511's from Global? Can you post a pic of the ones you actually purchased?
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97 F150 XLT Supercab 5.4L
Gryphon Tuner
Gotts Intake
Bone Stock for now or at least apears to be.
Can you post a pic of the ones you purchased. You have the 5.4 built out of the Essex plant nothing special about that. The only thing i can think of is the old ones may have compressed due to age but do the old ones and new one physically look the same? How much longer is the boots on the new ones? Here is the vin decoder for your year model.
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sounds like it is and that he got the DG511's and needs the DG508's. If you put 04 F150 in global's serch box it comes up with the DG511. But if you look at the pics for the DG508 and DG511 there is a noticeable difference. I would order the right set and sell the other ones to one of my bud's around here for what I paid for them. But that's just me 
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