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Old 03-02-2009, 10:28 PM
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More bad news for Mobil One users

From Jobbers World:
Castrol Edge Claims 8X Better Wear Than Mobil 1
As reported here last July, first Valvoline claimed its Synpower motor oil provided 4X better wear protection than Mobil 1. Then in December Valvoline turned up the heat by further stating that Mobil 1 5W-30 actually failed the Sequence IVA engine test, and not by a small margin.

Now Castrol has jumped on the bandwagon and raised the bar, claiming its new Castrol Edge "provides 8X better wear protection than Mobil 1 5W-30", again citing the Sequence IVA test.

Either Valvoline and Castrol have some amazing new oils, or ExxonMobil has a problem. Even if it turns out they don't have a technical problem, they sure as heck have a marketing challenge. Yet for whatever reasons, they remain silent - at least for now. I'm sure we'll hear from them soon!
It would appear as though the Mobil One is failing the API testing on wear. This is the second manufacturer to make a public statement claiming that Mobil One fails the API IVA test. In case you don't understand folks, that means that you are paying a premium price for an oil that is not doing the job of El Cheapo oil and your engine is having larger than normal wear rates. Your truck, your money.
 
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wow.... i always knew Mobil was screwing over Americans and Europeans...
 
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:50 PM
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Funny how you never see Amsoil in these pissing contest between manufacturers, hu?? Just one more reason why it's the only thing I use.
 
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:17 AM
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Keep in mind, all it takes is for Valvoline or Castrol to outperform Mobil 1 in a single test. Which may or may not have been a bad batch of Mobil. This seems to be the general consensus on several forums I frequent. Personally, I don't like Mobil 1 and I will never use it, but it's kinda hard to draw conclusions about these things based on marketing hype (which is all these claims are) without looking at the actual results and conditions that the test was performed under.
 
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Thats not good news. I've been using Mobil 1 in the wife's VW because its easily found in most of the stores here and it meets VW specs 502. 0W-50.Dealer is to far away to take it there for oil changes. Guess I better start ordering it online.
 
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:12 AM
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Taste Great / Less Filling
 
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:13 AM
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Guess I better start ordering it online.
I just ordered Motorcraft XO5W205QSP Premium Synthetic Motor Oil from Amazon.com.
 
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:56 AM
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Gonna get that 99 cent Mobil 1 oil outta the VW even tho I just changed it.

http://www.amazon.com/Pentosin-Perfo...=pd_sbs_auto_2
 
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:31 AM
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I heard that mobil 1 is actually made by gods, dont believe everything you hear.
 
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While I have to agree there is some advertising hype here, Valvoline may actually be correct in saying that it has 4 times better wear protection IF the M1 is actually failing the wear test. Note, they claim it failed, and not by a small margin. I find it interesting that Castrol has jumped on the bandwagon 6 month later. That kinda leads me to believe that it is not just one run of M1 that is coming up short but apparently something in the formulation isn't right. M/E has some of the top names in formulations so this really doesn't make sense. But API also reports that around 15% of the oils we buy are not meeting specs. Some exceed add pack levels and others are short. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. So far, no comment from M/E in the 6 months this has been going on. I would think they would be up in arms to defend their cash cow product unless there was actually something to Valvoline and Castrols claims.
 
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:18 PM
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i dont know, but i heard that valvoline and mobil1 was owned by the same company. anybody know?
 
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Nope. Mobil 1 is a product of Exxon-Mobil and Valvoline is owned by Ashland Refining.
 
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:07 PM
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Nope. Mobil 1 is a product of Exxon-Mobil and Valvoline is owned by Ashland Refining.
oh ok. thanks for the info.
 
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Labnerd,

Do you think this also applies to there ATF?
 


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