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Old 10-04-2007, 01:47 PM
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Uh, Ron - you should have started a fresh thread in Engines.

Please don't clog up this one, okay?

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Old 10-04-2007, 02:06 PM
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So Mr. Dyslexia - are you here to offer some help?

Or are you just being a tumor?

If you don't have anything constructive with which to assist Joey, then kindly piss off, buckwheat.

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Old 10-04-2007, 02:09 PM
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Ok. It's just that the tuner said it was reading in the 7's .... so he was using STFT instead ....

And - what I would like explained to me is how CAN the STFT''s be in the groove if the fueling is so far out of whack? You'd think the correction would be pegged. ??? What am I missing?

Quintin - you there boss? Bubba needs some ed-u-ma-cation LOL!

So Built - what's the new ETA on this thing?

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No, I'm seeing the 7's on my wideband.
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:22 PM
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No, I'm seeing the 7's on my wideband.
Ok - then you have a fundamental difference of opinion with your tuner.

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"The logs look great, there is nothing wrong with the short term fuel trims or anything else as far as I can see.

A wideband will not read richer then 9.0 so your 7.0 reading is false and I think you have something wrong electrically...

I just checked my LM-1 documentation & Innovate's web site:

A: The outputs are 10 bit A/D's with 0-5V output. The software in the LM-1 maps Lambda Values of 0.5 to 1.523 (7.35 to 22.4 AFR) into a 10 bit value (0..1023). The programming of the analog outputs then maps the programmed values to the appropriate output voltages. An output of 0 - 1V has about a 200 step resolution as this is 1/5 of the 0-5V output with 1023 step resolution.The mapping is capable of 7.35 to 22.4 AFR. A range of 10-30 AFR would require significant changes in the software of the LM-1.

So, if your recorder is in good shape, has a known good sensor, and has been freshly calibrated, then it appears that a reading that low is possible IF the range is so configured ( I set mine for 10-20 AFR, for example).

So you need to ask your tuner some more questions, looks like.

Caveat - I'm assuming you have an Innovate product - for another brand I'm SOL.

bubba

PS - Joey - ask the guy to join up and get involved in this discussion !!!

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Old 10-04-2007, 02:40 PM
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he is on another forum. I have the LC1, but i wasnt aware you could change the values?
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:46 PM
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he is on another forum. I have the LC1, but i wasnt aware you could change the values?
Oh absolutley, Joey.

You need Innovate's LogWorks 2 application,which includes the LM-programmer applet. This is the utility that you can use to configure a lot of the things on your instrument. Under the sheets - it's the same as an LM-1 and uses the exact same sensor.

It's here: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/support.php

The docs are also on that page - print those out - great stuff.

The trick is to restrict the AFR range to that which would be expected the vehicle will be in. Too wide and you lose resolution. Too narrow, and you could miss capturing AFR data at the lean/rich extremes.

Good luck, as always.

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Old 10-04-2007, 02:55 PM
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I have logworks 2, came on the cd with my lc1... I guess ill mess with it, but not sure on the cables because I dont have any way to connect it to my laptop.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:02 PM
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I have logworks 2, came on the cd with my lc1... I guess ill mess with it, but not sure on the cables because I dont have any way to connect it to my laptop.
Yes - you'll need a serial>usb converter - a good quality one, as not all of them will work.

And I also found this - on the Innovate Forum: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...72&postcount=5

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Old 10-04-2007, 04:03 PM
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Fuel supply

buitl54
i know i haven't been here long.
did you upgrade your fuel delivery system; filter , lines,
probably just the filter is all it would take if it is even the problem at all.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:49 PM
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buitl54
i know i haven't been here long.
did you upgrade your fuel delivery system; filter , lines,
probably just the filter is all it would take if it is even the problem at all.
beautiful truck !!!!
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there a difference between the L's and the 5.4 f150 in that regard?

also, if im not mistaken, he's not really having a insuficient amount of fuel. he's having issues with cutting the amount hes getting at idle.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:54 PM
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there a difference between the L's and the 5.4 f150 in that regard?

also, if im not mistaken, he's not really having a insuficient amount of fuel. he's having issues with cutting the amount hes getting at idle.
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Sorry i thought it wouldn't open open either?
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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no, it is getting way too much, but I just got some new wiring instructions from Mike, so lets pray it works
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:27 PM
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no, it is getting way too much, but I just got some new wiring instructions from Mike, so lets pray it works
Good Luck Sorry i can't help,this stuff is beyond me!!!
It looks like MGD is hooking ya up though
Could a faulty fuel pressure regualator have anything to do with this???
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Good Luck Sorry i can't help,this stuff is beyond me!!!
It looks like MGD is hooking ya up though
Could a faulty fuel pressure regualator have anything to do with this???

good point. are u still useing the old stock one? it might not lick the bigger injectors and fuel pump. also its vacume operated.. and since u no longer have engine vacume u need to change to a mechanical adjustable or electronic... ur going to over pressurize the fuel rail. that may be your problem. also ur going to need a hydra boost system. so the since without engine vacume the brake booster dont work
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:19 PM
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actually the brake booster is ran off vacuum from the upper plenum, it works fine. Im using the lightning rail and reg.
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