How high is to high?
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How high is to high?
Pulling my toybox up Cajon pass, And for those of you that don't know that is a 6% grade for 12 miles I am down in 2nd gear pullling about 3500RPM at 50MPH. Mind you my truck is rated and 260HP I do have 4,56 gears and superchip with cat back. My Q is? Is this to High RPM for that long of a pull? Should I back it down? I would like to pull 60MPR but that is up to 4000RPM. Truck only have a little over 61000 and don't use and drop of oil.
Thanks for any input
Thanks for any input
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Nice Truck!! The 5.4L is a workhorse - Do you have the tow package? The extra trans cooler - dual core radiator? You have an oil cooler , I would make sure that I have fresh oil for a trip like that and definitly install a trans temp guage - I would be worried about the trans more than the motor..If it were a 4six it would be a different story..
#5
I've pulled 8 to 10% for 4 miles back east (steep but shorter). I ran 3.5 to 4K and was impressed by smoothness and lack of noise compared to my 302 at 3 K. 3,500 just doesn't seem excessive IMHO.
You could ease up to 45 mph or pull over twice and let it idle.
I'd watch for overheating and not keep it to the floor. I'm not used to towing in your hi heat.
You could ease up to 45 mph or pull over twice and let it idle.
I'd watch for overheating and not keep it to the floor. I'm not used to towing in your hi heat.
#6
Originally Posted by jbrew
Nice Truck!! The 5.4L is a workhorse - Do you have the tow package? The extra trans cooler - dual core radiator? You have an oil cooler , I would make sure that I have fresh oil for a trip like that and definitly install a trans temp guage - I would be worried about the trans more than the motor..If it were a 4six it would be a different story..
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You pulling that trailer in your gallery ? What is that about 3000lbs ? You do have 4.56's !! I thought you said you didn't at first - I 'm surprised you can't get third gear..
How many times have you made the trip? We have a 6% grade hill that goes for about 1/2 mile here by the proving grounds , that is pretty steap now that I think of it ..
How many times have you made the trip? We have a 6% grade hill that goes for about 1/2 mile here by the proving grounds , that is pretty steap now that I think of it ..
Last edited by jbrew; 03-26-2007 at 09:30 PM.
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#9
i have a very tired 4.6 and i had her pinned hauling a #5500 enclosed 21' trailer. if it were to pop it shoulda popped that day when i had it rapped in 2nd with my 4.88's. 5% grade, close but i know its not quite the same
you cant get 3rd with those gears and a 5.4L? WHY?
i think honestly its more YOUR judgement call on this. just watch your engine for warning signs. keep your eye on that oil.
you cant get 3rd with those gears and a 5.4L? WHY?
i think honestly its more YOUR judgement call on this. just watch your engine for warning signs. keep your eye on that oil.
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Originally Posted by jbrew
You pulling that trailer in your gallery ? What is that about 3000lbs ? You do have 4.56's !! I thought you said you didn't at first - I 'm surprised you can't get third gear..
How many times have you made the trip? We have a 6% grade hill that goes for about 1/2 mile here by the proving grounds , that is pretty steap now that I think of it ..
How many times have you made the trip? We have a 6% grade hill that goes for about 1/2 mile here by the proving grounds , that is pretty steap now that I think of it ..
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My story is not as positive as the other replies. My 4.6 burned a valve at 163k. I use it to pull a 5500 lb travel trailer in the Rockies on weekends. Obviously spent just a little too much time around 4000 RPMs.
I think if you do this very often, you may want to at least consider dropping a heat level on the plugs.
I think if you do this very often, you may want to at least consider dropping a heat level on the plugs.
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Originally Posted by billyw
My story is not as positive as the other replies. My 4.6 burned a valve at 163k. I use it to pull a 5500 lb travel trailer in the Rockies on weekends. Obviously spent just a little too much time around 4000 RPMs.
I think if you do this very often, you may want to at least consider dropping a heat level on the plugs.
I think if you do this very often, you may want to at least consider dropping a heat level on the plugs.
#13
You can't and won't get third gear because you have jacked up your truck and screwed the towing dynamics up. Not only are you pulling up a steep grade for a long distance, but you are sacrificing horsepower turning those big tires around. And your 260 hp isnt achieved untill after 4000 rpm! Torque is what you need and I belive that until 2005 you didnt get peak torque until 3500 rpm. In the new ones you get your torque around 2000 rpm. The factory has spent millions of dollars designing your vehicle to be able to pull, and this includes its ride height and tire size.......
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I just installed that Transgo Tugger Kit from Troyer - I should have along time ago when I was movin trailers around for my dad. I like the way the trans actually helps with the braking now..
Check that kit out bigdad , that might help yuh..
Mannn, even tho the 5.4L could handle 6500, I still disliked pulling that kind of weight with a heavy half.
Anyway , yeah , that kits $100 and comes with a calibration plate that you calibrate yourself to fit your needs - "You want third gear to hit at acertain RPM under a heavy load"- - Insert the red spring here ..... That type of deal , I know it would help in your case..
Check that kit out bigdad , that might help yuh..
Mannn, even tho the 5.4L could handle 6500, I still disliked pulling that kind of weight with a heavy half.
Anyway , yeah , that kits $100 and comes with a calibration plate that you calibrate yourself to fit your needs - "You want third gear to hit at acertain RPM under a heavy load"- - Insert the red spring here ..... That type of deal , I know it would help in your case..
Last edited by jbrew; 04-07-2007 at 02:08 AM.
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Originally Posted by malexander52
You can't and won't get third gear because you have jacked up your truck and screwed the towing dynamics up. Not only are you pulling up a steep grade for a long distance, but you are sacrificing horsepower turning those big tires around. And your 260 hp isnt achieved untill after 4000 rpm! Torque is what you need and I belive that until 2005 you didnt get peak torque until 3500 rpm. In the new ones you get your torque around 2000 rpm. The factory has spent millions of dollars designing your vehicle to be able to pull, and this includes its ride height and tire size.......