2005 F150 High Oil Consumption

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Old 02-05-2007, 09:50 PM
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2005 F150 High Oil Consumption

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Last year I purchased a brand new Ford F150. At about 15K miles I noticed a significant loss of oil.

Manf. states that it is normal to consume one quart every 1800 miles(but an oil change every 5,000.) Is this consumption level normal for new vehicles too?

I drive my truck about 2500 miles and notice significant power loss, and the oil level is below the minimum required (barely registering on the dip stick)

Is it normal for a brand new vehicle to use up this much oil?
 
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sjblkstang
Please Help.

Last year I purchased a brand new Ford F150. At about 15K miles I noticed a significant loss of oil.

Manf. states that it is normal to consume one quart every 1800 miles(but an oil change every 5,000.) Is this consumption level normal for new vehicles too?

I drive my truck about 2500 miles and notice significant power loss, and the oil level is below the minimum required (barely registering on the dip stick)

Is it normal for a brand new vehicle to use up this much oil?
It's not too bad, but that's more than mine burns and it has almost 200,000 miles on it. What brand/viscosity are you using?
 
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:12 PM
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I'd say something is going on???

Have you check around the engine for leaks, oil filter not on tight or maybe the wrong type causing a leak. Place a big piece of cardboard under the engine for a day and see if there's any oil drops on it.

I'd also take it in to the dealer and let them check it out cause a new truck shouldn't have any oil issues.

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Old 02-06-2007, 12:21 PM
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I would say something is wrong also. Just think if you went to the 5000 mile interval and you would have burned almost 3 quarts of oil. There would be something wrong with that, in my eyes. I've had a old 74 chevy blazer with 280k on it and it never lost that much oil. Something has got to be wrong with it.


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Not good at all. Most barely move on the stick between changes.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:34 PM
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Yeah something is definitely wrong. Mine has 103k on it and only burns a drop or 2 between changes. I'd head to the dealer asap.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:43 PM
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Direct from the '05 service manual:

Excessive Engine Oil Consumption

Nearly all engines consume oil, which is essential for normal lubrication of the cylinder bore walls and pistons and rings. Determining the level of oil consumption may require testing by recording how much oil is being added over a given set of miles.

Customer driving habits greatly influence oil consumption. Mileage accumulated during towing or heavy loading generates extra heat. Frequent short trips, stop-and-go type traffic or extensive idling, prevent the engine from reaching normal operating temperature. This prevents component clearances from reaching specified operating ranges.

The following diagnostic procedure may be utilized to determine internal oil consumption. Make sure that the concern is related to internal oil consumption, and not external leakage, which also consumes oil. Verify there are no leaks before carrying out the test. Once verified, the rate of internal oil consumption can be tested.

A new engine may require extra oil in the early stages of operation. Internal piston-to-bore clearances and sealing characteristics improve as the engine breaks in. Engines are designed for close tolerances and do not require break-in oils or additives. Use the oil specified in the Owner Guide. Ambient temperatures may determine the oil viscosity specification. Verify that the correct oil is being used for the vehicle in the geographic region in which it is driven.
 
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Basic Pre-checks

For persistent complaints of oil consumption, interview the customer to determine the oil consumption characteristics. If possible, determine the brand and grade of oil currently in the oil pan. Look at the oil filter or oil-change station tags to determine if Ford-recommended maintenance schedules have been followed. Make sure that the oil has been changed at the specified mileage intervals. If vehicle mileage is past the first recommended drain interval, the OEM production filter should have been changed.
Ask how the most current mileage was accumulated. That is, determine whether the vehicle was driven under the following conditions:
Extended idling or curbside engine operation
Stop-and-go traffic or taxi operation
Towing a trailer or vehicle loaded heavily
Frequent short trips (engine not up to normal operating temperature)
Excessive throttling or high engine-rpm driving
Verify that there are no external leaks. If necessary, review the diagnostic procedure under Engine Oil Leaks in the Diagnosis and Testing portion of this section.
Inspect the crankcase ventilation system for:
disconnected hoses at the valve cover or throttle body.
loose or missing valve cover fill cap.
missing or incorrectly seated engine oil level indicator.
incorrect or dirty PCV valve.
a PCV valve grommet unseated in the valve cover (if so equipped)
Inspect for signs of sludge. Sludge affects PCV performance and can plug or restrict cylinder head drainback wells. It can also increase oil pressure by restricting passages and reducing the drainback capability of piston oil control rings. Sludge can result from either excessive water ingestion in the crankcase or operation at extremely high crankcase temperatures.
Inspect the air filter for dirt, sludge or damage. A hole in the filter element will allow unfiltered air to bypass into the air induction system. This can cause premature internal wear (engine dusting), allowing oil to escape past rings, pistons, valves and guides.
If the engine is hot or was recently shut down, wait at least 5 minutes to allow the oil to drain back. Ask the customer if this requirement has been followed. Adding oil without this wait period can cause an overfill condition, leading to excessive oil consumption and foaming which may cause engine damage.
Make sure the oil level indicator (dipstick) is correctly and fully seated in the indicator tube. Remove the oil level indicator and record the oil level.
Detailed Pre-checks

Check the thermostat opening temperature to make sure that the cooling system is operating at the specified temperature. If it is low, internal engine parts are not running at specified internal operating clearances.
Verify the spark plugs are not oil saturated. Oil leaking into one or more cylinders will appear as an oil soaked condition on the plug. If a plug is saturated, a compression check may be necessary at the conclusion of the oil consumption test.
Oil Consumption Test

Once all of the previous conditions are met, carry out an oil consumption test.

Drain the engine oil and remove the oil filter. Install a new manufacturer-specified oil filter. Make sure the vehicle is positioned on a level surface. Refill the oil pan to a level one quart (liter) less than the specified fill level, using manufacturer-specified oil.
Run the engine for 3 minutes (if hot) or 10 minutes (if cold). Allow for a minimum 5-minute drainback period and then record the oil level shown on the oil level indicator. Place a mark on the backside of the oil level indicator noting the oil level location.
Add the final 1 quart (liter) to complete the normal oil fill. Restart the engine and allow it to idle for 2 minutes. Shut the engine down.
 
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After a 5-minute drainback period, record the location of the oil level again. Mark the oil level indicator with the new oil level location. (Note: Both marks should be very close to the MIN-MAX upper and lower limits or the upper and lower holes on the oil level indicator. These marks will exactly measure the engine's use of oil, with a one quart differential between the new marks.) Demonstrate to the customer that the factory-calibrated marks on the dipstick are where the oil should fall after an oil change with the specified fill amount. Explain however, that this may vary slightly between MIN-MAX or the upper and lower holes on the oil level indicator.
Record the vehicle mileage.
Advise the customer that oil level indicator readings must be taken every 320 km (200 miles) or weekly, using the revised marks as drawn. Remind the customer that the engine needs a minimum 5-minute drainback for an accurate reading and that the oil level indicator must be firmly seated in the tube prior to taking the reading.
When the subsequent indicator readings demonstrate a full quart (liter) has been used, record the vehicle mileage. The mileage driven between the 2 readings should not be less than 2,400 km (1,500 miles). The drive cycle the vehicle has been operated under must be considered when making this calculation. It may be necessary to have the customer bring the vehicle in for a periodic oil level indicator reading to closely monitor oil usage.
Post Checks, Evaluation and Corrective Action

If test results indicate excessive oil consumption, carry out a cylinder compression test. The cylinder compression test should be carried out with a fully charged battery and all spark plugs removed. See the Compression Test Chart in this section for pressure range limits.
Compression should be consistent across all cylinders. For additional information, refer to the Compression Testing portion of this section. If compression tested within the specifications found in this section, the excessive oil consumption may be due to wear on the valve guides, valves or valve seals.
A cylinder leak detection test can be carried out using an Engine Cylinder Leak Detection/Air Pressurization Kit. This can help identify valves, piston rings, or worn valve guides/valve stems, inoperative valve stem seals or other related areas as the source of oil consumption.
NOTE: An oil-soaked appearance on the porcelain tips of the spark plugs also indicates excessive oil use. A typical engine with normal oil consumption will exhibit a light tan to brown appearance. See Spark Plug Analysis in this section for details. A single or adjoining, multiple cylinder leak can be traced by viewing the tips.

If an internal engine part is isolated as the root cause, determine if the repair will exceed cost limits and proceed with a repair strategy as required.
Once corrective action to engine is complete and verifying that all pre-check items were eliminated in the original diagnosis, repeat the Oil Consumption Test as described above and verify consumption results.

Please note that the mileage per quart was revised for the '04-up trucks. The mileage per quart of the 97-04 Heritage trucks is 900 miles per 1 qt.

-Joe
 
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Excessive Engine Oil Consumption

Customer driving habits greatly influence oil consumption. Mileage accumulated during towing or heavy loading generates extra heat. Frequent short trips, stop-and-go type traffic or extensive idling, prevent the engine from reaching normal operating temperature. This prevents component clearances from reaching specified operating ranges.

A new engine may require extra oil in the early stages of operation. Internal piston-to-bore clearances and sealing characteristics improve as the engine breaks in. Engines are designed for close tolerances and do not require break-in oils or additives.


I like these words,

prevents component clearances from reaching specified operating range
or
designed for close tolerances and do not require breakin oils
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:08 PM
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Excessive Engine Oil Consumption

Customer driving habits greatly influence oil consumption. Mileage accumulated during towing or heavy loading generates extra heat. Frequent short trips, stop-and-go type traffic or extensive idling, prevent the engine from reaching normal operating temperature. This prevents component clearances from reaching specified operating ranges.

A new engine may require extra oil in the early stages of operation. Internal piston-to-bore clearances and sealing characteristics improve as the engine breaks in. Engines are designed for close tolerances and do not require break-in oils or additives.


I like these words,

prevents component clearances from reaching specified operating range
or
designed for close tolerances and do not require breakin oils
 
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:14 AM
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so in reality an oil change every 5000 miles could realy use 10.3 quarts?(7 at the change and 3.3 between)
 
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:30 AM
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If it's burning a quart every 1500 miles, yep.
 
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kjbrowne
so in reality an oil change every 5000 miles could realy use 10.3 quarts?(7 at the change and 3.3 between)
Yup, and those 3.3 quarts are a LOT cheaper than spending money at the dealership trying to find out why it's using it. If it's under warranty, send it back. If it isn't, just keep it topped off and you'll never have a problem.
 
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Old 02-07-2007, 10:39 PM
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sjblkstang, give this a try. Check the PCV system first and make sure that it is functioning correctly. With the engine hot and running, pull the PCV and check for a lot of blowby from the valve cover. Any major amount of blowby means the rings have not seated. Take the truck to any Auto Zone and have them put a scanner on it for any codes. This is a free service. If it codes anything, take it to a dealer and have them fix the issue. If you get no codes and no blowby, you'll like this part, drive it like you stole it. Drive it hard, real hard. You're trying to build lots internal heat in the engine for around 45 minutes. Go back to driving normal and then check oil consumption. If it is still using oil, change the oil to Redline 5w-30, not just any synthetic, Redline. We are looking for the ester to do a job that is in Redline. It will cost you but you only have to do this once. Check the oil consumption again. It should be down after any of these recommends. If it still is using oil, switch oil to a duel rated oil like Rotella T or Motorcraft diesel rated in 5w-30.
 


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