Go Back   F150online Forums > Powertrain & Mechanical > V8 Engines
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-29-2007, 09:37 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In The Adirondacks of NYS
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 5
Cold Weather High Pitch Noise

I've poked around the forum a bit, and looked at threads about the noise issues...most seem to be fog light related.

Vehicle:

2005 F150 4X4 supercab 44k miles no fog lights....

I get a noise, almost like feedback at 1800 to 2000rpms in subzero weather. I brought it in to the dealer, they said they had one problem last year, and said it was a iced PCV vave. I suppose to bring it back when the only tech that has worked on this will return from vacation. When I inquired at another dealer, they mentioned they also heard of this problem, and said it "could" be a vapor management valve leak....

The first dealer said it'll go away when it warms up....in northern NY that won't be untill April!!!

IF the PCV valve needs replacement, at 44K miles, shouldn't that be a recall type issue, especially when it costs $140, just for the part

Has anyone encountered this?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-29-2007, 10:33 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: mass.
Vehicle: 2008 ford 150
Posts: 1,981
140$ pcv valve???? 5$ at autozone. sure you mean pcv?? anyway ford power steering pumps are notorious for squeeling in cold weather startup. my 96 crown vic does it. goes away after 5 mins of drivimg.

Last edited by keith97xlt; 01-29-2007 at 10:35 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-29-2007, 10:54 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In The Adirondacks of NYS
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 5
That's what Ford had on their system..$140....something about a heater hose assembly...

I wouldn't pay that anyway...

It's definetly not the P/S pump...it's consistent at highway speeds, 65mph.
If I give it gas, or let up on the gas it stops. I looked for hoses, lines or other things that might not be connected, but so far nothing.

I went through all vacuum related items while driving, it didn't change at all. Tried wipers, looked for debris in the grille, nadda.

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-29-2007, 11:43 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Vehicle: 2005 FORD F150
Posts: 7
Iíve got an 05 FX4 with about 30K.

Iím getting more of a high pitch whine. It only last for 2-5 seconds. Iím not sure if its cold weather related though. It happened once about 2 weeks ago then 2 times last week, and this morning 3 times.

Hit the gas or let off makes no change. Turning the fan on off makes no change. Steering left or right makes no change. Cruise control on or off makes no change. Hell I even checked the radio and still no change. Its not consistant so I canít find it. By the time I stop the sound is gone.

Iím still under warranty so Iíll be taking it in soon.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-29-2007, 11:44 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: mass.
Vehicle: 2008 ford 150
Posts: 1,981
i dont know man lol.usually its belt related when its high pitch annoying squeel like that. see what ford says that what warranty is for..

Last edited by keith97xlt; 01-29-2007 at 11:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-29-2007, 12:36 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In The Adirondacks of NYS
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 5
I initially thought it was the belt too....this is my fourth Ford truck since 1982, have driven almost 600k miles total in the first three, and have been through what should be every "wearing part" issue there is....(I'm sure there's more )

It's not the belt.

From what the first dealer (where I purchased the truck) said, condensation from the crankcase freezes in the PCV, creating a small orafice where it'll make the noise at certain pressures.....(sounds good?!)....since it's been well below freezing for weeks, I won't know if it is the exact cause until it warms up.

The second shop thought it could be a "vapor management valve".....in the location of the noise...behind the motor. In any case it sounds pressure-vacuum related. I'm at a loss....

I have an extended warranty untill 75k....

Hopefully someone will give more ideas as to the cause....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-29-2007, 12:58 PM
Technical Article Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lake in the Hills,IL
Vehicle: 2008 Ford F150
Posts: 382
There has been some discussion on this as of recent and I'm still a believer that it is the IAC. Mine does it right around 1500-1600, constant throttle....let off and it immediately goes away. I'd say start there...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-29-2007, 01:25 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In The Adirondacks of NYS
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 5
OK will do....I just spoke with our fleet mechanics..should have done that first!.....they mentioned that this was an issue in the ast but they (Ford) was supposed to put some type of insulation on the PCV assembly....he gave me some "Dragon Fire" carb cleaner, said to flush it out.

I'll do that first, then check the IAC....(wherever that's located!)....I'll inform all of the outcome.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions thus far!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-29-2007, 11:36 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F-150
Posts: 4
High Pitch Noise at 1800 rpm

2005 Ford F-150 Flareside

I have a high pitch noise at 1800 rpm and goes away when I step on it or slow down. If I kept the rpm at 1800, it would squeal continuously. Notice it worse in cold weather -20 C. and thereabouts.

Anyone found the source of this yet or a solution?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-31-2007, 12:01 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Minnesota
Vehicle: 2004 Ford F150
Posts: 9
Dealer found my problem

I started getting the same kind of high pitched wine when the temps drop a couple of weeks ago. Took it to the dealer and the driveline tech knew what it was right away. They replaced the alternator and it's fixed. I would hear the sound a little at lower speeds but always and 54mph and 61mph. I would have to hold it at one of those speeds for a second or two and then I would start hear it. As soon as I let up or accelerated it would go away.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-07-2009, 10:40 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by R1Jester View Post
There has been some discussion on this as of recent and I'm still a believer that it is the IAC. Mine does it right around 1500-1600, constant throttle....let off and it immediately goes away. I'd say start there...
I have this exact problem in the 1800-2000 RPM range. It is throttle related because the noise goes away when you let off the throttle. Has anyone found the cure?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-08-2009, 02:37 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CANADA
Vehicle: 2011 FORD F-150
Posts: 133
Judging from my truck, I'm sure its the air intake! It sucks up air from a hole on the driverside and at 1800-2000 rpm its makes like a small whistle sound. Mine did it stock and now with the aftermaket intake its even louder! And like you said at 1800 rpm its steady whistling high pitch sound; i'm 90% thats what your hearing! I'll film it with and without the aftermarket intake (stock is just a little bit more quiet)and you'll hear it for yourself but all I know is that its not harmful for nothing! I know for sure its the intake or maybe throttle body. Don't worry and don't call it a problem lol!!!
__________________

-OAKLEYF150-
9'' lift, 38x15.50R18 Mickey Thompson MTZ's,
18'x10 Mickey Thompson wheels, custom 3''dual exhaust,
AEM Brute Force Intake/TBS, Detroit TrueTrac w/ 4.56 gears,
Oakley Badges, Avic D3, Cowl Ind. Hood, Edge Tuner!

How much more money till I get Truck Of The Month lol!!!!!!!!!

Last edited by 07F150OAKLEY; 02-08-2009 at 02:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-10-2009, 05:28 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2
The only that doesn't explain is why this only happens in cold weather. In warm weather you would still have the same amount of air entering the intake. I've read the PCV explanations and that seems reasonable, but I don't know if that is the problem for sure. I also don't know if there is a fix.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-11-2009, 12:09 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: CANADA
Vehicle: 2011 FORD F-150
Posts: 133
Mine does it in the summertime too maybe you just didnt notice it!?!?
__________________

-OAKLEYF150-
9'' lift, 38x15.50R18 Mickey Thompson MTZ's,
18'x10 Mickey Thompson wheels, custom 3''dual exhaust,
AEM Brute Force Intake/TBS, Detroit TrueTrac w/ 4.56 gears,
Oakley Badges, Avic D3, Cowl Ind. Hood, Edge Tuner!

How much more money till I get Truck Of The Month lol!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-11-2009, 12:15 AM
Suspended
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: MI
Vehicle: 1998 Ford F150 5.4L 4X4
Posts: 25,636
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adkleaddog View Post
That's what Ford had on their system..$140....something about a heater hose assembly...

I wouldn't pay that anyway...




I don't think you have a PCV valve if it's a V8 - It would help if you post what engine we're talking about here - Must be a V8, that's why it cost so much/ different type system.

Heated PCV assembly-

Click the image to open in full size.

Last edited by jbrew; 02-11-2009 at 12:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 12:15 AM


 
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:37 AM.





This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Fordģ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company
 
Contact Us Advertising Privacy Statement Terms of Service Jobs Forum Text Archives
Emails & Contact Details