Bye-bye 4.6 & Hello 454 Bbc !!!!!!!!
#1
Bye-bye 4.6 & Hello 454 BBC !!!!!!!!
Anyone know of a previous Project that someone has removed the 4.6L and went to Big Block Motor, Trans, Rearend.
I have a 500HP i built last year for my jetboat and never installed. The 4.6 is the Biggest Joke from Ford in quit some time. Almost as bad as their 4R70W Trans.
When i looked at the availabilty of High Performance transes and rear end's it all came to me. Drop in the Big Block, and have a Killer Truck for around town and pulling the sand rail to glamis.
ANYWAY, what im looking for is someone with Knowledge of what it takes for the electrical reconfigs. thats all im really worried about. ANY direction to talk to that rare individual out there would be VERY APPRICIATED.
Thanks for any and all help guys.
Ken
I have a 500HP i built last year for my jetboat and never installed. The 4.6 is the Biggest Joke from Ford in quit some time. Almost as bad as their 4R70W Trans.
When i looked at the availabilty of High Performance transes and rear end's it all came to me. Drop in the Big Block, and have a Killer Truck for around town and pulling the sand rail to glamis.
ANYWAY, what im looking for is someone with Knowledge of what it takes for the electrical reconfigs. thats all im really worried about. ANY direction to talk to that rare individual out there would be VERY APPRICIATED.
Thanks for any and all help guys.
Ken
Last edited by vegasman; 12-15-2004 at 11:45 AM.
#4
It was built for a boat, not out of one. but thanks for the carefully thought out reply.
And yes to the Chevy Eng, in a Ford Truck. You can be a Ford Owner and dig the Truck, but theres nothing wrong with going to a Different Powerhouse thats proved to Me that its the best. Theres alot of great motors out there, but after owning 3 jetboats, 2 muscle cars, and currenty a 28 Warlock Offshore Boat that does 95 with 700Hp and all of them powered by 454BBC, why look anywhere else. Plus i already have the Motor Done and paid for.
SO,
Maybe i should of also stated that i would really appriciate the replies that directly involve input to the technical info that would help me with my project.
Again, Thanks Very Much
And yes to the Chevy Eng, in a Ford Truck. You can be a Ford Owner and dig the Truck, but theres nothing wrong with going to a Different Powerhouse thats proved to Me that its the best. Theres alot of great motors out there, but after owning 3 jetboats, 2 muscle cars, and currenty a 28 Warlock Offshore Boat that does 95 with 700Hp and all of them powered by 454BBC, why look anywhere else. Plus i already have the Motor Done and paid for.
SO,
Maybe i should of also stated that i would really appriciate the replies that directly involve input to the technical info that would help me with my project.
Again, Thanks Very Much
#6
Respectfully, I don't think many on this board have have gone to those lengths in a street truck and daily driver.
You seem to have excess money to do these things. Take it to a shop that specilizes in such work.
I can tell you in advance that you will never adapt the original computer to work on the transplant motor and have it run as factory.
You seem to have excess money to do these things. Take it to a shop that specilizes in such work.
I can tell you in advance that you will never adapt the original computer to work on the transplant motor and have it run as factory.
#7
Hi, thanks for the reply. I dont expect to make it run factory. It will have to be rewired for the body electrical only. No computer will be used for engine mechanics. Its MSD and Carb. No fuel injection.
PS. if i had alot of money, this post would'nt be here. Just your average joe making less than a cab driver !
Thanks
PS. if i had alot of money, this post would'nt be here. Just your average joe making less than a cab driver !
Thanks
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#8
Hello...
You will need the following;
New motor mounts (custom fabricated)
New transmission/ torque converter (your 4r70w will not bolt up)
Relocated crossmember for that new tranny
Basic 12v system to supply distributor stator, ignition coil, etc
You'll have to make a choice on which fuel pump you'll want to use, because the 4.6 has an electric fuel pump in the tank, whereas the 454 Is mechanical, and hook up lines from there
( the electric would be easier)
I suppose it could be done...But why? If it's your primary means of transportation, you're gonna be takin one of them underpaid cabbies for quite some time...It's not a weekend project!
let us know what becomes of the situation
-Jim
You will need the following;
New motor mounts (custom fabricated)
New transmission/ torque converter (your 4r70w will not bolt up)
Relocated crossmember for that new tranny
Basic 12v system to supply distributor stator, ignition coil, etc
You'll have to make a choice on which fuel pump you'll want to use, because the 4.6 has an electric fuel pump in the tank, whereas the 454 Is mechanical, and hook up lines from there
( the electric would be easier)
I suppose it could be done...But why? If it's your primary means of transportation, you're gonna be takin one of them underpaid cabbies for quite some time...It's not a weekend project!
let us know what becomes of the situation
-Jim
#9
Hi Jim, glad to see someone thats willing to help with the details. Its deffinetely not my daily driver. Just something to smoke the Rice Burners around town on the weekends and pull my toys as well. Its got a 7in lift with 35's on it. So it sould be fun to see the look on their faces when a offroad truck is leaving them in the dust.
I leave my daily driving to my 84 190E Benz thats never had 1 issue except for its owner running out of gas.
Im looking at a Powerglide Trans and a 12Bolt Possi or Corvette rear end. im a pretty good welder, so making the mounts and supports sould be fine. its all the wiring of everything thats going to be the challenge.
thanks for the info and will keep up to date when we can.
Kenny
I leave my daily driving to my 84 190E Benz thats never had 1 issue except for its owner running out of gas.
Im looking at a Powerglide Trans and a 12Bolt Possi or Corvette rear end. im a pretty good welder, so making the mounts and supports sould be fine. its all the wiring of everything thats going to be the challenge.
thanks for the info and will keep up to date when we can.
Kenny
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Well, if it's the same year engine or newer you could possibly do it, but why go through the expense and hassle. Not to mention California has the strictest emmisions laws in the entire country. Even if it could be done, you'd never drive it on the street again, unless maybe you moved to a state with no inspections?
If it was me I'd sell the 454, and modify the 4.6. Heads, supercharger, intake, exhaust, etc...... Or better yet, buy an old beater Chevy pickup, and build a wicked sleeper, hehe.,,,,98
If it was me I'd sell the 454, and modify the 4.6. Heads, supercharger, intake, exhaust, etc...... Or better yet, buy an old beater Chevy pickup, and build a wicked sleeper, hehe.,,,,98
#11
I put the engine and trans from a 1973 chevy into my 1964 ford pick up years ago but there were no electronic components involved. Nearly all things involved in the swap were mechanical fabrication related and pretty straight forward. The truck originally had a 262 Y-block that was nice but being a young punk at the time I blew it up. I already had the chevy donor car but didnt have much cash so I used what I had available.
I got motor mounts and a crossmember years ago from a company called Transdapt ................ I'm surprised that they are still around.
Do what you want with your truck cuz you're the one who will drive it. BTW, the 64 Ford with the 350/350 was a really smooth and powerful truck with all the benefits of the GM interchangeability in engine trans combos. My $.02
Good luck.
I got motor mounts and a crossmember years ago from a company called Transdapt ................ I'm surprised that they are still around.
Do what you want with your truck cuz you're the one who will drive it. BTW, the 64 Ford with the 350/350 was a really smooth and powerful truck with all the benefits of the GM interchangeability in engine trans combos. My $.02
Good luck.
Last edited by LE PEW; 12-14-2004 at 09:13 AM.
#12
Add these to the list:
cooling system
additional coolers
accessories (AC, PS, Alt.)
exhaust
front springs
driveshaft
rear brakes
ABS brakes
emergency brake
rear springs/mounts
rear wheels
the electrical nightmare
This isn't a common question, but go to the Lightning section and ask around about/search for the "ONE" guy who installed a 460 in his Lightning. He's done some of what you're looking to do.
cooling system
additional coolers
accessories (AC, PS, Alt.)
exhaust
front springs
driveshaft
rear brakes
ABS brakes
emergency brake
rear springs/mounts
rear wheels
the electrical nightmare
This isn't a common question, but go to the Lightning section and ask around about/search for the "ONE" guy who installed a 460 in his Lightning. He's done some of what you're looking to do.
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Originally posted by vegasman
Hi Jim, glad to see someone thats willing to help with the details. Its deffinetely not my daily driver. Just something to smoke the Rice Burners around town on the weekends and pull my toys as well. Its got a 7in lift with 35's on it. So it sould be fun to see the look on their faces when a offroad truck is leaving them in the dust.
I leave my daily driving to my 84 190E Benz thats never had 1 issue except for its owner running out of gas.
Im looking at a Powerglide Trans and a 12Bolt Possi or Corvette rear end. im a pretty good welder, so making the mounts and supports sould be fine. its all the wiring of everything thats going to be the challenge.
thanks for the info and will keep up to date when we can.
Kenny
Hi Jim, glad to see someone thats willing to help with the details. Its deffinetely not my daily driver. Just something to smoke the Rice Burners around town on the weekends and pull my toys as well. Its got a 7in lift with 35's on it. So it sould be fun to see the look on their faces when a offroad truck is leaving them in the dust.
I leave my daily driving to my 84 190E Benz thats never had 1 issue except for its owner running out of gas.
Im looking at a Powerglide Trans and a 12Bolt Possi or Corvette rear end. im a pretty good welder, so making the mounts and supports sould be fine. its all the wiring of everything thats going to be the challenge.
thanks for the info and will keep up to date when we can.
Kenny