NEW Gen II EcoBoost V6

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Old 12-23-2015, 09:31 PM
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NEW Gen II EcoBoost V6

This is the engine that is expected to be in the revised Raptor with a new 10 speed auto behind it. The is a 100% clean sheet new engine. It's not a revised 3.5 or even close to it. The biggest difference, it's port injected as of now and may even use port injection and direct injection like some of the foreign makes have used to eliminate the crap on the valves and intake. This is the same engine that will be in the new GT40 only it makes around 600HP. Although it's a 3.5 it is a completely new engine. This engine will make for some crazy excitement. While the F150 is not mentioned as a future holder of it, it's a matter of time before the trickle down effect will make it happen.
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Old 12-24-2015, 11:44 AM
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As with any new design I wait 1-2 years before buying. Looks like quite an improvement however.
 
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Old 12-24-2015, 12:47 PM
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Rather interesting... That engine needs to be put in some police cruisers and give it a whirl.
 
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Old 12-24-2015, 11:10 PM
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I'm curious about what they did for the anti-lag system. To need that they would have to be turning some really big snails. The K03s or even K04s wouldn't need it.
 
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Old 12-25-2015, 10:14 AM
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In the New Raptor application I'm gonna guestimate this engines new numbers are going to be 450HP & 450 Lb/Ft Torque.
 
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Old 12-25-2015, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by risupercrewman
In the New Raptor application I'm gonna guestimate this engines new numbers are going to be 450HP & 450 Lb/Ft Torque.
Those numbers would mean the motor is WAAAAY undertuned. The current EB can easily make that with just a 93 octane tune. The secondary port injectors are added to address the fueling issues that DI engines are having. The Gen I EB already uses some of the largest injectors Bosch makes. Chasing power means you have to add fuel. If your injectors are maxed out you either go to a bigger injector or add secondary fuel sources in this case option 2 is the only viable choice. As an added benefit the port injectors help emissions in some operating conditions and wash the intake valves.
 
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Old 12-26-2015, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Wookie
Those numbers would mean the motor is WAAAAY undertuned. The current EB can easily make that with just a 93 octane tune. The secondary port injectors are added to address the fueling issues that DI engines are having. The Gen I EB already uses some of the largest injectors Bosch makes. Chasing power means you have to add fuel. If your injectors are maxed out you either go to a bigger injector or add secondary fuel sources in this case option 2 is the only viable choice. As an added benefit the port injectors help emissions in some operating conditions and wash the intake valves.

We will have to wait & see? I don't see Ford jumping to 500HP/500TQ in this application just yet? However I could be wrong?
 
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The best guess from the folks that are close to this is 400-425HP. Remember, the new EPA regs starts with YM 2017. They will be detuning these engines for the carbon footprint which equals better gas mileage.
 
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Labnerd
The best guess from the folks that are close to this is 400-425HP. Remember, the new EPA regs starts with YM 2017. They will be detuning these engines for the carbon footprint which equals better gas mileage.
Yes I agree. Ford will bump the #'s just above the outgoing 6.2 V8's #'s just to make a statement & be in line with the EPA's regulations.
 
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Originally Posted by Labnerd
The best guess from the folks that are close to this is 400-425HP. Remember, the new EPA regs starts with YM 2017. They will be detuning these engines for the carbon footprint which equals better gas mileage.
Hit the nail on the head! To me the real benefit is the potential power with just a tune. I think it will be an impressive motor, but some won't care because it doesn't sound like a V8...
 
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Ford PR is saying it will have more power than the outgoing 6.2L but not how much more. This puts the 450/450 numbers right at the bottom end of what it will be but even then it will be detuned quite a bit.

The real question for the rest of us is how much of this can we use on the previous versions of the EB?
 
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Ford PR is saying it will have more power than the outgoing 6.2L
This one of those ya gotta watch their lips and both hands. The standard 6.2 makes 385HP. A 400HP new EB is more than the out going engine. If they SPECIFICALLY stated Raptor, if the new EB make 415HP, that's more than the current Raptor 6.2. All of the car makers are real sly about that with Ford playing the power game REAL close to their chest.

The real question for the rest of us is how much of this can we use on the previous versions of the EB?
Absolutely nothing. This is a completely different 3.5 EB engine. My personal opinion Ford has far too many 3.5 engines and confusion will be king. Fudge the numbers one way or the other like a new 3.4 or a new 3.6 but not another 3.5.
 
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This new EB Motor will be worth watching to see how they improved the design.
 


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