Just got done with the oil change and I would rate it 6 maybe seven out of 10 as far easyness. Went to walmart, truck calls for 5-30 blend. well for 30 cents more you get synthetic and really synthetic isnt much more than dino oil either. Either way with 6 qts and filter cost about 35 bucks. Ok to find the oil pan, I ended up taking off the metal skid plate and the front rubber liner only to find the oil pan behind the left passenger wheel. Ok put the skid plate and such back on and take off the black felt like liner, easy 4 wing nut plug type things. Plug is under two fuel lines from what it looks like so some wrenches might be a pain to get in there. Take out plug and it blows out about two feet so be careful. And it spills oil on the sway bar. OK get that empited and done.
Now on to the filter. Its PIA from the top and from the bottom you cant see it, so Ford you get stupid points for placement. Either way take off the front rubber shroud and youll see a spout that comes out the front. Loosen and filter and the oil ends up going out a spout going towards the back which I didnt see and oil ends up coming out from a rubber type seal in the skid plate, more stupid points there.
Get that all done and add 5 qts and shes full maybe a little to full. Let it sit and ran it ten miles, going to check it in a while. But when I filled the up the empty cans it was only about 5 qts maybe a 1/10th , more. I let her drain pretty good. So watch that because I think she holds about a qt of oil. Thats my experience.
Yeah shouldnt have seen that would have made it easier, but still a stupid design by ford. Anybody else notice that they couldnt get all six qts to drain
update after letting it sit for a while, it was a qt short. So i only took five out when it needs six, so it burnt a qt, which is to be expected during break in. Engine has 3000miles on. So if you have an EB keep an eye on it and dont wait to long for your initial oil change.
Yeah shouldnt have seen that would have made it easier, but still a stupid design by ford.
??? It really isn't that bad. There is one cover and a rubber shield to take off, both of which are on quick release fasteners. The oil from the filter drops straight through the hole in the skid plate and down the trough into a catch pan. The only thing that could be really improved is the angle of the drain plug. I would prefer it to be almost straight down like 5.4 was.
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??? It really isn't that bad. There is one cover and a rubber shield to take off, both of which are on quick release fasteners. The oil from the filter drops straight through the hole in the skid plate and down the trough into a catch pan. The only thing that could be really improved is the angle of the drain plug. I would prefer it to be almost straight down like 5.4 was.
Like i said 7 out of ten. First off when oil comes out it hits the sway bar, no biggy. Then the filter you either go from underneath or step up into the engine and lean in. Easiet truck ever was my 08 F250 diesel, straigh out.
I havent changed the oil but based on what i have read here and fhe way it looks the filter looks to be the biggest mess. It looks like the way the plastic drip tray is the oil looks like it would tend to run aft even with the truck level. I wonder if parking heading down hill a bit would make less of a mess. The other thought was to put a small pan under the filter to catch the oil. The filter is not flush with the eng block like most but sticks out an inch or two so the oil would flow into a pan. Guess i will find out on 5K miles
I havent changed the oil but based on what i have read here and fhe way it looks the filter looks to be the biggest mess. It looks like the way the plastic drip tray is the oil looks like it would tend to run aft even with the truck level. I wonder if parking heading down hill a bit would make less of a mess. The other thought was to put a small pan under the filter to catch the oil. The filter is not flush with the eng block like most but sticks out an inch or two so the oil would flow into a pan. Guess i will find out on 5K miles
It's not that big of deal. If you have ever changed the oil in a 5.4L than you know the drill. It is the same principle.
Put the catch pan under the square hole in the skid plate and loosen the filter a few turns. Let the oil drain out. Then turn it quickly the rest of the way off and turn the filter upright. Keep it this way as you pull it out of the engine compartment. This way you *might* spill 8-10 drops in the tray that Ford put there.
If you can't change the oil in an EB without making a mess you should not be working on a vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Clarkson
A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.
It's not that big of deal. If you have ever changed the oil in a 5.4L than you know the drill. It is the same principle.
Put the catch pan under the square hole in the skid plate and loosen the filter a few turns. Let the oil drain out. Then turn it quickly the rest of the way off and turn the filter upright. Keep it this way as you pull it out of the engine compartment. This way you *might* spill 8-10 drops in the tray that Ford put there.
If you can't change the oil in an EB without making a mess you should not be working on a vehicle.
in reading various threads on here and seeing my truck drip residual oil on my driveway for 2 days after the dealer changed my oil and that was after a 40 mile drive home i just assumed that this was a very messy event. it didnt seem that bad when i looked at it yesterday but i did notice that the black plastic piece under the filter would route the oil back to the skid plate instead of forward as it was probably intended to do. thats why i said park facing slightly down hill or put a small pan under the filter. i have had v8 ford trucks since 1985 and have never spilled oil. just commenting on what i have read and the oil spots in the driveway.
in reading various threads on here and seeing my truck drip residual oil on my driveway for 2 days after the dealer changed my oil and that was after a 40 mile drive home i just assumed that this was a very messy event. ...
I would guess most of this is due to oil being spilled into the catch pan that is under the filter. It is there to stop the oil from spilling all over the front axle, very similar to a 4x4 5.4L. The drain for this is just to the left of the rubber air dam. The oil will slowly run down here and drip if you don't wipe up any that you spilled. A lazy tech probably forgot to wipe out the inside of the pan and the drips were the result.
If the oil isn’t very hot, hold the drain plug in the stream of oil and you can direct it into the catch pan and keep it off the sway bar. I did this last time and it worked like a charm.
People on here make is sound like you have to pull the motor out, turn it upside down and shake all the old oil out. Other than removing the two air dams which are held on with quick release fasteners there is very little difference between changing an EB and 5.4L.
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A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.
You gotta consider that of all the work that gets done at a dealer, an oil change is probably the least technically challenging. They probably won't put a highly qualified experienced tech on the job. I wouldn't be surprised if the same kid that runs the vehicles through the wash rack also does the oil changes.
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You gotta consider that of all the work that gets done at a dealer, an oil change is probably the least technically challenging. They probably won't put a highly qualified experienced tech on the job. I wouldn't be surprised if the same kid that runs the vehicles through the wash rack also does the oil changes.
you are probably right on the experience level. the big issue with this is that it reflects badly on the dealership. they left the rubber skirt between the heat exchanger intercooler and skid plate off and had to ups it to me. i had drops of oil dripping on the driveway for 2 days. i ended up crawling under there and dropping the shroud down and checking the drain plug and wiping up what i could. then to top it off i was looking around under the hood when i checked the oil level and see that the clips that hold the airbox together where the air filter is are all left undone. i looked at the slip they gave me and it showed they did a maintenance inspection and check the air filter was marked off.
At pretty much any dealership the lube tech is the lowest guy in the shop and paid the least. A top tech makes pretty good money and the shop would lose money paying him to do oil changes. As it is most shops barely break even on them, it is a hook to sell more work.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Clarkson
A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.
I've found that you need two catch pans while changing oil,when you loosen filter seal you get another shot of oil from drain plug.
My driveway shows proof that one drain pan doesn't cut it
I've installed a fumoto drain valve and intend to attach a temp hose to valve while draning, this should allow me to move catch pan close to filter drain funnel.
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