Everytime I start my truck when the engine is cold in the morning, it will start up just fine and run really smooth for about 2 minutes. Then my engine will start to shake and miss like it's about to quit.
That lasts 10-15 seconds. Then it clears up and doesn't miss a beat until the next time I start the engine cold.
I've cleaned my IAC valve (nearly spotless at 60k miles), MAF and IAT sensors.
There is no CEL or DTC'S. This has me stumped.
The only thing I can think of is the Flowmaster muffler I'm running now has crapped out. It's rusty and has a loose baffle banging around in there.
I don't think that's the problem though. Because it starts shaking at exactly the same time about 2 minutes after cold start up.
After about 2 minutes or so, the oxygen sensors should heat up enough, or whatever they do to start running lean as opposed to rich upon startup (to go from an open to closed loop, or vice versa.) I had them go bad on a bronco II years ago, and that was the problem. Maybe someone can give the ohm specs for an oxygen sensor, or tell how to test em using a DVOM. Anyways, something to check out.
No, I've had a killer flu virus for about week and haven't had a chance to even think about it. I asked my Dad about the 02 sensors, and he said if I didn't have a check engine light that the 02's were ok. I did notice when I put my Mac intake on that inside the barrel of the throttle body had alot of carbon build-up in it.
I've got a can of "safe" throttle body cleaner sittin' out in the garage I'm going to use on it next chance I get. I forget the name of it "CRS" or "SRS" throttle body cleaner. I hope that helps it.
I don't think its that because my idle has started surging. That leads me to believe it's a bad 02 sensor (or both upstream sensors), or a bad TPS sensor.
I'm leaning more towards the 02 sensors because I did a seafoam treatment through the brake booster vacuum hose last November.
My engine started slightly missing two or three minutes after startup shortly after the seafoam treatment. 1500 miles later, the idle surges up about 300 rpm and back down to normal every two seconds at normal operating temperature.
I think it might have coated my 02's with some build-up because I only ran it about 4 or 5 miles to burn all stuff out. Then I parked it not letting the 02's burn off all the gunk going through them.
My engine didn't have any problems with idling until after I did the seafoam, just a pinging problem that was fixed.
There still is no SES light illuminating?
Quintin? ProjectSHO? What do you guys think?
Last edited by Peacemaker; 02-18-2006 at 09:23 AM.
Sorry, I don't frequent the V6 forums as much as I should. :o
Anywho, I'm thinking leaking intake manifold gaskets and/or bolts as well. Next time it acts up on cold start, try spraying some carb cleaner around where the upper and lower intake join together and seeing if the idle smoothes out.
BOF, Idon't think it's the IAC. I just cleaned it last week and it wasn't even dirty. But I know that it could still be faulty. Wouldn't that cause an SES light? I have no light.
Quintin, if it is the intake manifold gaskets or bolts. If the bolts are a little loose, should I tighten them down snug or just replace the gasket? I'm thinking tighten them down a little first and see what happens?
You can tighten them all you want, I don't think it'll help. The vacuum leaks are actually through the bolts themselves. There's a revised set of gaskets and bolts for this concern, although at it's worst you should get CELs with 171/174 lean codes. I'd try the carb cleaner thing first so we can make sure that you do or don't have a leak before we inadvertently fix something.
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