So I was looking through my Ford manual tonight and discovered that the new 6-speed automatic transmission attached to the 5.4L engine has no dipstick?!?! I know I can monitor the temp from the instrament panel...but really? No dipstick? Further down it says that only a certified dealer should check and flush the ATF if necessary.
Not that I plan on doing this myself right now, but I would really like to know how to check and change the ATF if necessary.
Maybe I'm wrong (and in this case I hope I am), but it seems that this is a HUGE oversight...
Does anyone have any insight into why Ford doesn't include a transmission fluid dipstick?
Last edited by ncTidalWave; 12-08-2009 at 12:08 AM.
My 2005 Dodge Magnum car does not have a dipstick. I thought it was just those crafty Germans doing crap like that. The Magnum transmission with the v8 is a Mercedes transmission. I have to take it to the dealer to get the fluid checked. Something I will consider when I buy another car or truck.
@kingfish51, thanks for the info! I'll be sure to check that out.
Wow, I had no idea other manufacturers were doing this too...You'd think that "Built Ford Tough" would mean engineering that was uncompromised...not swayed by the accountants that figure you'll have to bring your truck into them to have it serviced. I realize these are rather hard times, especially for the auto industry, but I think excluding such an item as a user-maintainable transmission is a bit weak.
Oh well, since posting this topic, I've heard that these transmissions are supposed to last a "lifetime" on their fluid...now we just have to figure out how long that means...(assuming that is true of course)
Do I see a business opportunity here for a user-maintainable transmission mod? *pokes aftermarket companies*
the simple reason is this...Ford doesnt want you messing with it while its on warranty. With so many different types of ATF out there now it is very easy to just say oh well its a Ford it takes mercon right? well...you got mercon V, mercon LV, mercon SP(which is what the new 6speed uses) ect... overfull transmissions or wrong fluid from missinformed customers or "lube shops" can cost them (Ford) money.
But there is no such thing as a "lifetime" transmission.
Sure there is, if you never change the fluid then its sealed for life
If you think no transmission dipsticks is bad, get ready for the future, 2010 Land Rover products have electronic engine oil level dipsticks that you check from the instrument cluster option menu. But then again BMW has had cars for several years without engine oil dipsticks
...Land Rover products have electronic engine oil level dipsticks that you check from the instrument cluster option menu.
Haha. It's not so much that I mind electronic monitoring, in fact I really like it in some areas. But dealing with robotics for 4+ years has taught me that if worst comes to worst, your electrical components will die, your mechanical components will last (longer at least), and you NEVER write 200 lines of software code when a simple mechanical fix will do.
i.e. put a dipstick with your tranny instead of ( or at least in addition to) a pressure sensor and multiple temperature sensors...and make the reservoir easily accessible
I agree with Paralyzer, Ford doesn't want to have to fix other people's mistakes when it's under warranty, I just don't like it.
@Patman03SprCrw, so I take it that you see more and more of this happening in the future...even to vehicles that are more likely to break and require maintenance in the field and on the job?
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