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Old 06-24-2009, 02:01 PM
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4r70w swap help plz

my truck is a 98 f150 4x4 4r70w


can i swap in a 00 or 01 MOUNTAINEER 4r70w 4x4 tranny into my truck ?

can i use that t-case too or no ?


i take it i have to change some wireing around ?

thanks for the help

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Old 06-24-2009, 10:47 PM
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your correct, there should be a pin difference in the wiring harness. easy fix if your patient, Darrin Burch on here would have the pinout you need, i think even alan/dirtydog would too.
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:53 PM
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your correct, there should be a pin difference in the wiring harness. easy fix if your patient, Darrin Burch on here would have the pinout you need, i think even alan/dirtydog would too.
Here is a link to the pinout information.
http://www.p71interceptor.com/tranny...ead/index.html
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:52 AM
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Let's specifically answer what you asked and not just post up a link to someone else's hard work to try and appear smart. The answer is no. You cannot swap an 00-01 Mountaineer transmission into your 98 truck because the bellhousing pattern is different.

There is no point in talking about the wiring part when the transmission won't fit anyway. LOL

You need a transmission from something that has the same engine in it that your truck has.

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Old 06-25-2009, 11:16 AM
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ya i had no idea what it had in it or not...

thanks for the info
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Old 06-25-2009, 12:52 PM
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Specifically since I think you have a 5.4l now and you have a 98 already so there is no need to mess with wiring changes at all to use a newer transmission, you would be best to find a transmission out of a 98-04 5.4l 4X4 F150 that was equipped with a 4R70W. If from an 04 it needs to be from a Heritage.

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Old 06-25-2009, 01:27 PM
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Let's specifically answer what you asked and not just post up a link to someone else's hard work to try and appear smart. The answer is no. You cannot swap an 00-01 Mountaineer transmission into your 98 truck because the bellhousing pattern is different.

There is no point in talking about the wiring part when the transmission won't fit anyway. LOL

You need a transmission from something that has the same engine in it that your truck has.

Darrin
Feeling a little "ouchy" this AM?

Just curious, without the OP telling us which engine he has, how could you determine it wouldn't work? Could he not have the same motor in his '98 as is in the Mountaineer? (Not asking to be a smartass, just asking because I don't know.)

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Old 06-25-2009, 01:37 PM
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The engine will not be the same. The 2000/2001 Mountaineer only came with a 4.0 V6 and a 5.0 V8.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:39 PM
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ohhh they ran the 5.0 then? i thought they phased it out completely.
is it the same 5.0 pattern from the older days or has it changed?
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:54 PM
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The engine will not be the same. The 2000/2001 Mountaineer only came with a 4.0 V6 and a 5.0 V8.
You learn something new every day.

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Feeling a little "ouchy" this AM?

Just curious, without the OP telling us which engine he has, how could you determine it wouldn't work? Could he not have the same motor in his '98 as is in the Mountaineer? (Not asking to be a smartass, just asking because I don't know.)

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Nope, not feeling the least bit "ouchy" LOL

If you do a bit of research on who posted the 'technical' reply (NOT Klitch) then you might begin to understand why I worded things the way I did.

But how I knew what engine the OP had is because I used the search function and researched what engine he had before I answered. I figured that he actually wanted good solid advice that was relative to his situation, so I read his whole question then looked up what he had in his truck since he didn't include it and gave him an accurate answer to what he specifically asked.

I am kind of a stickler like that, sorry. I hate it when I have a question for which I obviously need the correct answer and instead get something that doesn't even relate to what I asked.

Again, knowing who the reply came from will shed light on how I phrased things on my end. This happens all the time with him. Either he just doesn't know the true answers, doesn't at all read what is being asked or just posts up something to make people think he is helping someone, I don't know. I will never understand that guy.

But, I hope what I posted was actually of some real help to the OP.

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Old 06-25-2009, 02:52 PM
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Feeling a little "ouchy" this AM?
The whole purpose of him being here is to make personal attacks at me in every thread I post in. In fact I don't post much here because of him, not like I used to. After a couple years of me teaching him the transmission business he has decided he is better than me and will try to convince the world his couple years of reading on the internet make his experience far superior to my 16 years in the transmission business.
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:09 PM
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You know...

If you posted things that were relative and factual then you might have a point of some sort.

What was your purpose in this thread, Mr "16 years in the transmission business"? Why did you once again post up something that wasn't in any way relative to the OP's question?

Is it
(A) Because you have no clue about what you are talking about generally?
(B) That you don't care enough about honestly helping to read the questions in their entirety?
(C) That you only post to draw attention to yourself so that people might ask what it is that you do in attempt to drum up business?
(D) All of the above.

I know the answer and it shows in how you post and what you post. You didn't even try and help the OP with his situation and I flat guarantee you that you still have no idea what he drives until I point that out again and you go and look.

Give us a break. Go pretend to be an expert somewhere where they don't know any better.

Darrin

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Old 06-25-2009, 04:13 PM
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And this is how his game works folks, watch out for this guy. I wouldn't have replied again if he hadn't have pissed me off by the string of lies that he last posted.

Teaching me transmissions... INDEED! LOL

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