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Old 02-24-2008, 06:25 PM
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Flush or do it myself?? Tranny fluid change?

Ok so my 01 screw has 143k on it and the tranny is taking a while (about 2 times the normal)to shift from 1st to 2nd. I would like to first change the fluid and then see if its better. So should I do it myself or take it in to get flushed? Also can someone let me know how exactly to do it myself? Im assuming drop the pan replace the gasket and filter then drain the torque conv and refill? Thanks !


PS. How do I know what type of tranny I have ? tr says U on the door and the pan is not flat it has a bump in it....

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Old 02-24-2008, 09:37 PM
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"U" is a 4R70W. If you have a torque converter drain plug, you can replace all but a quart or so of fluid yourself with a pan drop and draining the converter. I don't remember if 01's still have the plug or not.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:22 PM
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The '01s do have a torque converter drain plug. Ford stopped installing them soon after the start of the '02 model year.
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How are you going to catch 4 gallons of fluid gushing out at once from your dropped pan? Do you have an old bathtub to slide under your truck, after you've jacked your truck up 3 feet off the ground? Then you'll still have to repackage the old fluid and find somewhere to dispose of it. Your garage will be a mess. Let's say that you have a large enough receptacle; larger in diameter than your transmission pan and deep enough to catch all the fluid without any of it splashing out onto your floor. You are still going to have to lift it up several feet off the ground, and funnel it all back into those little 1 quart bottles. Imagine doing that with up to 4 gallons! I sure wouldn't want to try that without spilling a drop.
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:37 AM
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You aren't going to get 4 gallons out of the pan - maybe 5 quarts at most. The rest is in the valve body and converter.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:06 AM
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Got it so you guys think the flush is the way to go. Thanks !
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:57 PM
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Or do it yourself.

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Im assuming drop the pan replace the gasket and filter then drain the torque conv and refill?
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How are you going to catch 4 gallons of fluid gushing out at once from your dropped pan? Do you have an old bathtub to slide under your truck, after you've jacked your truck up 3 feet off the ground? Then you'll still have to repackage the old fluid and find somewhere to dispose of it. Your garage will be a mess. Let's say that you have a large enough receptacle; larger in diameter than your transmission pan and deep enough to catch all the fluid without any of it splashing out onto your floor. You are still going to have to lift it up several feet off the ground, and funnel it all back into those little 1 quart bottles. Imagine doing that with up to 4 gallons! I sure wouldn't want to try that without spilling a drop.
You sound like someone that has listened to too many mechanics tales and have never attempted to do this yourself.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:28 PM
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True story. I had a 6 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon while watching my buddy fumble his way around servicing his own transmission. He wound up looking like Al Jolson at the end of the day.

Let's face it: not all of us were meant to turn wrenches and swing hammers. I'll be the first to admit that my hands have soft, lotioned skin, with no callouses from manual labor, and my neck isn't red & leathery from working the fields. I come from a long line of folks who have no idea how to pick their own cotton for their shirts & ties.

I had a girl. She was mine. I painted her ass with iodine. And on her ass, I hung a sign. It said, "stay off this ass, this ass is mine".

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Old 03-05-2008, 07:44 PM
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True story. I had a 6 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon while watching my buddy fumble his way around servicing his own transmission. He wound up looking like Al Jolson at the end of the day.

Let's face it: not all of us were meant to turn wrenches and swing hammers. I'll be the first to admit that my hands have soft, lotioned skin, with no callouses from manual labor, and my neck isn't red & leathery from working the fields. I come from a long line of folks who have no idea how to pick their own cotton for their shirts & ties.

I had a girl. She was mine. I painted her ass with iodine. And on her ass, I hung a sign. It said, "stay off this ass, this ass is mine".

And when the end comes I know, that I'm just a gigolo, and life goes on without me. Nobody cares about me.
??? Uh, okay... I share with you the same family heritage and at the same time, among the different things my college degree taught me, was why pay someone an exorbitant (relatively speaking) amount of money to do something I have the capability to do myself? On that note...

What do you guys think about putting a drain plug in the pan, so I could do the fluid every 10k or so and then the whole thing every 30k? I usually have someone weld in a bung fitting. Japanese cars have drain plugs in their pans (as well as their diffs) and I've always thought this was a much better design from a maintenance standpoint. Any thoughts?
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:04 PM
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??? Uh, okay... I share with you the same family heritage and at the same time, among the different things my college degree taught me, was why pay someone an exorbitant (relatively speaking) amount of money to do something I have the capability to do myself? On that note...

What do you guys think about putting a drain plug in the pan, so I could do the fluid every 10k or so and then the whole thing every 30k? I usually have someone weld in a bung fitting. Japanese cars have drain plugs in their pans (as well as their diffs) and I've always thought this was a much better design from a maintenance standpoint. Any thoughts?
Soooo, what your saying is...... because you have a college degree, every price is "exorbitant" (relatively speaking) which is an insult, and because you have two hands and a computer for info, you can fix anything? Most college educated people I know say, "I went to college so I don't have to do it myself", which is also insulting but will at least be done corectly. Not all shops are fair, sad but true, but in this country your mentality is part of our economic problems. I'm sure we all are having a tough time, but I would like to know what you do for a living so I may no longer support you or your livelyhood, I'm sure it is something everyone needs and is quite "affordable".
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:13 PM
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Soooo, what your saying is...... because you have a college degree, every price is "exorbitant" (relatively speaking) which is an insult, and because you have two hands and a computer for info, you can fix anything? Most college educated people I know say, "I went to college so I don't have to do it myself", which is also insulting but will at least be done corectly. Not all shops are fair, sad but true, but in this country your mentality is part of our economic problems. I'm sure we all are having a tough time, but I would like to know what you do for a living so I may no longer support you or your livelyhood, I'm sure it is something everyone needs and is quite "affordable".


You must be kidding right, "part of our economic problems" , I doubt that. We all know immigration and welfare is the problem, not someone trying to further educate them self by saving a buck. Drain it and learn, the American way. Paying some one else to do a job you can do yourself is foolish, paying dealer rates to watch oil hit the pan is stupid.
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:42 PM
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You must be kidding right, "part of our economic problems" , I doubt that. We all know immigration and welfare is the problem, not someone trying to further educate them self by saving a buck. Drain it and learn, the American way. Paying some one else to do a job you can do yourself is foolish, paying dealer rates to watch oil hit the pan is stupid.
Who said anything about dealer rates?

If you doubt what I said is actually a problem then open your eyes or at least watch the news sometime. Tell me of a city/town that hasn't had multiple businesses go under in the past 1 year due to American spending habbits...... not many (not including Detroit which will probably be closed soon anyway). I don't disagree about Immigration & welfare or the housing market for that matter, but all of that does correlate with the economic problem I mentioned. Yes, people not spending is a big part of our economic problems, and D.I.Y'ers is not helping many businesses, in many different fields. The outsourcing of everything Americans are good at because they all want more money and less work, therefore, go on strike and force the businesses to outsource what it can, then, they all loose their jobs anyway, is the biggest prolem. You don't need a College education to see that. Where have you been? out of the country? You must be, that's where most of the jobs are anyway. Ford & G.M. had better sales in China and Australia than they did here in '07, (Go figure why nobody has money to spend on maintaining their vehicle) and that's pushing more and more people out of work and more and more immigrants here to do our jobs (that haven't been already outsourced) and do them for less money (and sometimes they are even good at it). I would say I can't blame anyone for wanting to save a buck, but a few million adds up don't you think? Also, constantly whinning that all auto repair facilities are a rip off is just plain "lack of intelligence" (although I know there are a few out there as with anything), it's just like any other business, there are expences to keep the doors open, like paying the techs who would like to pay their bills just like you, someone has to pay the heat and electric etc... and there is also the profit that is to be made, if not, then why open any business, that's what decides pricing on services performed therefore prices go up just like anything else in the world. Doing it yourself is by no means the American way, (not that there's anything wrong with that) but, supporting our national and local economy is. So lets all go out and buy a Toyota or Honda and support our economy. Sorry to rammble, rant & rave but, man, that is a sore spot for me and my family .



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Old 03-06-2008, 06:03 PM
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Easy advice

To properly get the fluid out you should take it somewhere and have it flushed on the machine.

If you "drop" the pan, you do it easy. You just losen the bolts on ONE side of the pan at a time. As the pan lowers, the fluid can be caught in a container and funneled into a 5 gallon jug. It's not rocket science.
You will only get 5 to 7 quarts out of this and I believe the tranny has 14.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:36 PM
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Not all shops are fair, sad but true, but in this country your mentality is part of our economic problems. I'm sure we all are having a tough time, but I would like to know what you do for a living so I may no longer support you or your livelyhood, I'm sure it is something everyone needs and is quite "affordable".
My opinion is that people should do those things in life that they have the capabilties to do, and hire someone to do the jobs they don't they can't do themselves. There's still a lot of technical repairs on modern vehicles for dealerships and other automotive shops to make money on and keep their doors open. Changing the fluid in a transmission doesn't have to be one of them.

Even by skipping the dealership for my transmission flush, I'm still contributing my money to the nation's economy by buying firearms with my extra cash.
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