online store, message boards, mailing list, pictures, technical information, product directory ford truck information, svt lightning information, f150 information, f-150 information, f250 information
Home Discussion Forums Photo Gallery Product Directory Technical Articles Recalls & TSB's Product Reviews Classifieds Ford & Industry News Event Calendar Advertise with us
F150online Forums



Look for a USED Ford F150
Carsdirect.com

Go Back   F150online Forums > Powertrain & Mechanical > Transmissions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-16-2003, 01:59 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: South Dakota
Vehicle: 2003 Ford F150 4x4
Posts: 69
Anyone install a pan from yourcovers.com?

I'm planning on installing a trans pan. Anyone install one from this company? any feedback??

Register today or sign-in to remove these ads!

__________________
'03 F150 Lariat 4X4 SCab. 5.4L
FX4, Class III Tow, Captains Chairs
Leer 100XQ
Line-X Liner
Gibson Stainless Catback SweptSide
Amsoil 0W-30 Series 2000
Galaxy DX959 Cb w/Wilson Antenna
XM Radio (Skyfi 2)
Silverstars
Klasse Paint Sealant
Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-16-2003, 01:31 PM
Technical Article Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka Kansas
Vehicle: 1999 Ford F150
Posts: 1,488
Re: Anyone install a pan from yourcovers.com?

Quote:
Originally posted by TerryK67
I'm planning on installing a trans pan. Anyone install one from this company? any feedback??
I have been looking at those pans also.

Someone posted that they had used a B&M pan.

http://www.bmracing.com/products/tra.../deepPans.html

And TCI makes one also...

http://www.tciauto.com/ford/ford_aod.htm

Aluminum appears to transfer heat the best and I also check if the pan has a magnetic drain bolt. Some folks like to have the drain bolts on the side of the pan instead of underneath the pan where it might catch on something when offroading.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-17-2003, 08:02 PM
Technical Article Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka Kansas
Vehicle: 1999 Ford F150
Posts: 1,488
Re: Anyone install a pan from yourcovers.com?

Quote:
Originally posted by TerryK67
I'm planning on installing a trans pan. Anyone install one from this company? any feedback??
Hey Terry.

I looked at the measurements on the deep transmission pan P/N 9685 and it looks like the transmission support would have to be removed to get the pan installed. The diagram says 4.04 and I assume the units are in inches. I think I will fire off a question to PML about installation of their deep pan.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-17-2003, 08:06 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: South Dakota
Vehicle: 2003 Ford F150 4x4
Posts: 69
Let me know what they say. Let them know that there are at least two of us on the hook for one of their pans....

I called them a couple of weeks ago and they never mentioned having to pull the support...??
__________________
'03 F150 Lariat 4X4 SCab. 5.4L
FX4, Class III Tow, Captains Chairs
Leer 100XQ
Line-X Liner
Gibson Stainless Catback SweptSide
Amsoil 0W-30 Series 2000
Galaxy DX959 Cb w/Wilson Antenna
XM Radio (Skyfi 2)
Silverstars
Klasse Paint Sealant
Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-17-2003, 08:55 PM
Technical Article Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka Kansas
Vehicle: 1999 Ford F150
Posts: 1,488
Quote:
Originally posted by TerryK67
Let me know what they say. Let them know that there are at least two of us on the hook for one of their pans....

I called them a couple of weeks ago and they never mentioned having to pull the support...??
The DEEP pans from B&M and TCI appear to be tapered where a person could get one of those flex ratchets in there to work on the rear bolts. (If the pictures of the pans are correct). The B&M and TCI pans do not show having magnetic drain bolts though.

The PML low profile pan looks like it would install without any problems but it has those transmission filter restrictions that go with that pan. I suppose I will never have to change the transmission filter again though so maybe that is a moot point.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-18-2003, 01:09 PM
Technical Article Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka Kansas
Vehicle: 1999 Ford F150
Posts: 1,488
Quote:
Originally posted by TerryK67
Let me know what they say. Let them know that there are at least two of us on the hook for one of their pans....

I called them a couple of weeks ago and they never mentioned having to pull the support...??



Larry,

We have had some experience with the combination you are describing.
Have a look at the pictures shown. This is an F150 4WD either the same
year as yours or very close. The customer could not install the pan
because of the bracket that is closest to the valve body which looks to
be attached near the trans mount. I think your assessment is correct,
the bracket would likely have to be removed or moved in order to get the
pan on. The pan on the ground next to the stock pan is our 9685. The
bolts may be accessable with the bracket in place but you may not be
able to maneuver the pan down to take it off or up to put it back on.

Thanks for checking with PML.

Brent Lottman (brent@pmli.com)
PML, Inc.
(310) 671-4345

Larry Griffiths wrote:

Hi,

I have a 1999 Ford F-150 Lariat Extended Cab 4x4 with the 4R70W
transmission. I looked at the dimensions of your PML P/N 9685 pan and
it shows the pan being 4.04 units (which I assume are inches deep). I
looked under my truck and it appears that I would have to remove the
transmission mount in order to get access to the bolts on the pan that
are located toward the back of the vehicle.

Can you verify that I would have to remove my transmission mount while
installing this pan in order to get access to the bolts on the pan that
are located toward the back of the vehicle.

Larry Griffiths



Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-18-2003, 02:32 PM
Technical Article Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka Kansas
Vehicle: 1999 Ford F150
Posts: 1,488
I see you have an 2003 F150 Terry. Maybe your transmission is mounted differently.

I got a reply from Mag-Hytec that they have 4R70W Transmission pans. I am trying to get cost, pictures and dimensions from them. Mag-Hytec products seem to cost more though.

Larry
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-18-2003, 06:41 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: New York
Vehicle: 2000 Ford Expedition
Posts: 42
I installed a B and M racing deep pan on my 2000 Expy 4 wheel drive 4r70w. I had to remove the transmission crossmember and install the pan. So far no problems and I never did install a tranny temp gauge, to compare before and after temps. The pan added about 3 more quarts of fluid. I don't see the drain plug on the bottom, sticking out to far grabbing anything as there are a lot more things that would get snagged on something first. The extra fluid alone has to be good for the tranny, just for cooling purposes.
__________________
2000 Expy XLT 4WD 4.6
K&N fipk
Superchip
Slotted Rotors F&R
Edelbrock IAS shocks
Hellwig rear anti-sway bar
Roush 18x9.5 wheels
Michelin Pilot LTX(285/60/18)
Gibson S/S single exit
Front Brushguard
Taillight Guards
Black Magic Fog Lights
Lund Hood Deflector
B&M Deep Tranny Pan
Oh Yeah(Terrorist Hunting Permit on back window)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-18-2003, 07:40 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: South Dakota
Vehicle: 2003 Ford F150 4x4
Posts: 69
Thanks for the info Larry...I have the same x-member.

Renegade...how much trouble was it to move the x-member out of the way??
__________________
'03 F150 Lariat 4X4 SCab. 5.4L
FX4, Class III Tow, Captains Chairs
Leer 100XQ
Line-X Liner
Gibson Stainless Catback SweptSide
Amsoil 0W-30 Series 2000
Galaxy DX959 Cb w/Wilson Antenna
XM Radio (Skyfi 2)
Silverstars
Klasse Paint Sealant
Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-18-2003, 09:12 PM
Technical Article Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka Kansas
Vehicle: 1999 Ford F150
Posts: 1,488
Quote:
Originally posted by Renegade1
I installed a B and M racing deep pan on my 2000 Expy 4 wheel drive 4r70w. I had to remove the transmission crossmember and install the pan. So far no problems and I never did install a tranny temp gauge, to compare before and after temps. The pan added about 3 more quarts of fluid. I don't see the drain plug on the bottom, sticking out to far grabbing anything as there are a lot more things that would get snagged on something first. The extra fluid alone has to be good for the tranny, just for cooling purposes.
Renegade,

You did put the crossmember back, right?

I think I saw a picture of that B&M deep pan and it did not appear to be tapered toward the rear of the transmission. I also saw a picture that showed the pan was tapered so I think some damned salesperson just picked any picture and put it with the description of the pan. I hate when they do that.

Is the B&M pan completely flat on the bottom?

Does your B&M pan look like this?



Larry
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-19-2003, 12:32 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: New York
Vehicle: 2000 Ford Expedition
Posts: 42
Yes, I re installed the crossmember and the pan is not stepped down, it is the same depth for the entire length of the pan. To drop the pan and change the filter, the crossmember will have to be removed again, and make sure to use loc tite on the tranny pan bolts. It's not a bad install.
__________________
2000 Expy XLT 4WD 4.6
K&N fipk
Superchip
Slotted Rotors F&R
Edelbrock IAS shocks
Hellwig rear anti-sway bar
Roush 18x9.5 wheels
Michelin Pilot LTX(285/60/18)
Gibson S/S single exit
Front Brushguard
Taillight Guards
Black Magic Fog Lights
Lund Hood Deflector
B&M Deep Tranny Pan
Oh Yeah(Terrorist Hunting Permit on back window)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-19-2003, 03:41 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: South Dakota
Vehicle: 2003 Ford F150 4x4
Posts: 69
Renegade..how hard was it to move the x-member? Did you just slide it out of the way or did you have to drop it out and support the trans??
__________________
'03 F150 Lariat 4X4 SCab. 5.4L
FX4, Class III Tow, Captains Chairs
Leer 100XQ
Line-X Liner
Gibson Stainless Catback SweptSide
Amsoil 0W-30 Series 2000
Galaxy DX959 Cb w/Wilson Antenna
XM Radio (Skyfi 2)
Silverstars
Klasse Paint Sealant
Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-19-2003, 03:52 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: New York
Vehicle: 2000 Ford Expedition
Posts: 42
I had the truck on a lift and supported the tranny with a tranny jack. It could be done with a hydraulic floor jack also, it would just be a little bad for the neck(cramps). It was a total of 8 bolts I think. Just be careful and don't overtighten the pan bolts or they will strip out when the tranny heats up. The directions should tell you what the torque settings are, I believe they are in inlbs.
__________________
2000 Expy XLT 4WD 4.6
K&N fipk
Superchip
Slotted Rotors F&R
Edelbrock IAS shocks
Hellwig rear anti-sway bar
Roush 18x9.5 wheels
Michelin Pilot LTX(285/60/18)
Gibson S/S single exit
Front Brushguard
Taillight Guards
Black Magic Fog Lights
Lund Hood Deflector
B&M Deep Tranny Pan
Oh Yeah(Terrorist Hunting Permit on back window)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-19-2003, 10:42 PM
Technical Article Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka Kansas
Vehicle: 1999 Ford F150
Posts: 1,488
Im still playing email tennis with the fellow at Mag-Hytec. He says they have two different pans.

His email about the pans:

"We have no pictures of the 4R70W pans. I have a 2001 supercrew and there is no problem with clearance. It stands off 5" and sells for $265.00. Our "D" pan stands off 3.5" and sells for $240.00. Thanks again and hope this helps."

I asked him if they plan on listing these pans on their web site with pictures. I also asked if the pans were tapered and said that I would kill to get pictures of both pans.

Im thinking of just ordering the Mag-hytec differential cover for now.

It sure would be great to have some posts with pictures here of folks that have installed TCI or Mag-Hytec transmission pans.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-19-2003, 10:50 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: South Dakota
Vehicle: 2003 Ford F150 4x4
Posts: 69
Geeze..all this work just for a pan. I think I'm going to put the pan on myself (while moving the x-member). I'm not too concerned about getting to the filter as I am about having more fluid, a drain plug and a thicker pan.

I'm also going to do the mag diff cover after this project...
__________________
'03 F150 Lariat 4X4 SCab. 5.4L
FX4, Class III Tow, Captains Chairs
Leer 100XQ
Line-X Liner
Gibson Stainless Catback SweptSide
Amsoil 0W-30 Series 2000
Galaxy DX959 Cb w/Wilson Antenna
XM Radio (Skyfi 2)
Silverstars
Klasse Paint Sealant
Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar
Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
 
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company
Contact Us Advertising Terms of Use Privacy Statement Jobs Forum Text Archives