Tranny flush, will it flush the cooler?

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Old 04-24-2003, 08:59 PM
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Tranny flush, will it flush the cooler?

Ok, don't laugh... I have been doing searches for the last 4 nights trying to find the best way to flush my tranny (4R100 Truck built in 2000). I installed my FTVB, cleaned the pan etc... I will remove the return line (in the rear of the tranny). I read that this tranny has a bypass valve that opens only when the tranny fluid reaches 160degrees. My question is: if my tranny is cold an I perform a flush, will it flush the cooler also or will it only flush @ 10%?
The reason I ask is because I want to replace the fluid with synthetic.
 

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Old 04-25-2003, 03:06 PM
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If you click on THIS You will get a procedue that will flush all the fluid, including what's in the cooler.
 
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Old 04-25-2003, 03:25 PM
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Ughhh have to register to see the entire thing. I will have to do that tonight I guess. Thanks for posting that link Mark!

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Old 04-25-2003, 04:59 PM
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Per Mark:

Changing ATF Fluid in a E4OD and 4R100 Transmission

By Mark Kovalsky



I've done this alone. It's easier with a second person, and sometimes helps prevent spills.


Things you need to get started:
The E4OD and 4R100 transmission system holds almost 18 quarts of ATF, and you must waste a couple of quarts to be sure you get it all purged and replaced, so buy 20 quarts of MERCON ATF [do NOT buy MERCON V!]. Ford also warns against using a fluid that has a dual MERCON and MERCON V rating. You may use either conventional or synthetic, as long as it meets the above requirements.
The 4R70W transmission system holds about 14 quarts of ATF. The 4R70W uses MERCON V, and the MERCON V can be used on older 4R70W transmissions that were factory filled with MERCON.

I replace the transmission filter every other fluid change. Note that Ford does not recommend ever changing the filter. I've opened filters with over 300,000 miles that were not even close to being clogged.
Don't buy a new pan gasket. The original is reusable.
A 10 foot length of clear tubing and one hose clamp, sized to fit over your cooler hose. There have been different size cooler lines over the years, so check before buying!
If you don't already have a special funnel that fits into the transmission dipstick tube, then you will need one of those, too.

If you are changing the filter, drain the pan if your pan has a drain plug. If you are not changing the filter, jump to step 4.
If you don't have a drain plug, go to step 4 to pump out the pan, preventing an ATF shower! Return here after step 4 and one pass through step 5a.
Remove the pan and clean the pan and gasket, including the magnet on the bottom of the pan. Fuzz on the magnet is normal, that's why it is there!
Change the filter. It just pulls out, there are no bolts that hold it. It is held in place by the pan. Make sure that the O-ring is removed, too. Sometimes it does not come out with the filter.
Replace the pan, using the reusable gasket.
At this point you can drain the torque converter. Some people think it is necessary, but I don't. Running the engine in the next steps will pump the fluid out of the torque converter. If your transmission was built after August 2001, you don't have a drain plug in the torque converter.
To drain the torque converter remove the shield (or the rubber plug in some models) and turn the flywheel until you see the drain plug. If you also drain the torque converter, then the old ATF will not come out the return line until after the torque converter has filled.

If you drained the pan, pour new ATF into the filler [dipstick] tube until you have added about as much as you earlier drained from the pan. At this point overfilling by no more than one quart won't hurt anything.

Disconnect the transmission-fluid return line at the transmission - from where the ATF returns to the transmission from the cooler. This is the line towards the rear of the transmission. Clamp the clear tubing over the line that you removed from the transmission. This is where the fluid comes out.

This is where the second person comes in handy. One person starts the engine, while the other holds the line over the drain bucket. A clothes pin can replace the person holding the line in the bucket.
Run the engine until you see some air in the clear tubing. As soon as you see air shut off the engine. Refill through the dipstick tube with the same amount as you just pumped out.
NOTE: If you drained the pan and the torque converter, fluid will not run out until you fill the pan a second time. Run the engine for 30 seconds, then stop and add six more quarts.


Repeat step 5 until you have added 19 quarts with of new ATF to the system with an E4OD or 4R100. Repeat until you have added 13 quarts with the 4R70W.
At least one time while the engine is running move the shifter through each position from P to 1, pausing about 5 seconds at each position. This will change some fluid that would otherwise be trapped in the valve body, accumulators, and clutches.

Remove the clear line and reconnect the cooler line to the transmission.

Check the fluid level and use the last quart to top off.

Properly dispose of the used transmission fluid.

Congratulate yourself! And your engine starter/killer person.
 
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Old 04-25-2003, 07:24 PM
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Thanks guys, I had found that thread but according to FactoryTech, the 4R100 has a bypass valve that "bypasses" the fluid (prevents it from going through the cooler) when the fluid is cold. Right now, my fluid is cold, it coming right from the Mobil1 container so my guess is that the cooler will not get flushed. Please correct me if I am wrong

Thanks again for all your help,
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You're wrong, unless you have the fluid VERY cold. Room temperature fluid won't cause the bypass to function.
 
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Old 04-25-2003, 09:48 PM
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Thanks Mark,

I have completed the flush, 19 quarts of Mobil1 ATF.
I have another question: When my friend put the transmission in 1st gear and reverse (as directed in the instructions), the fluid was coming out from the tranny and a lot of it along with a funny noise. Is this normal?

Thanks,
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Old 04-26-2003, 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by Silver Bullet 7
Thanks Mark,

I have completed the flush, 19 quarts of Mobil1 ATF.
How much? 19 quarts? Are you sure? I got, I think 13-14 quarts draining the tranny and TC and adding the deeper pan. 19?
 
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Old 04-26-2003, 07:31 AM
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I got about 4 out of the 4x4 pan and the valve body. Then I flushed it using the above mentionned procedures and flush a little bit mote to make sure I got everything out.

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so I am guessing if you undo the return line at the radiator, that part does not get flushed?
 


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