Temp Gauge Installed

JBRIII · #1 12-28-2002, 07:17 PM

I put my autometer temp gauge on today. Took it for a test drive and it didn't move. Jacked it back up and saw the probe in the tranny port was not fully seated. Cranked it a few more times and voila.

I have a question for Mark or anyone else who has their sensor in the tranny port. Do you notice fluctuations on your gauge during short trips? Such as stop sign to stop sign. I guess the fluid is not flowing past the sensor in a steady stream. On the highway cruizin it was at a steady 145-150, and tha gauge didn't move.

Any thoughts?

John

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Neal · #2 12-29-2002, 01:38 AM

HI!... That's why I installed my "MECHANICAL" (only way to go IMO) AUTOMETER temp guage using a temp manifold into the "OUTGOING" tranny line. The fluid going through the "OUTGOING" tranny line is the hottest fluid in your tranny since it just came out of the TQ converter. The TQ converter creates 80% of the heat in a transmission, thus any other reading would be of lower temp value and not accurate. I researched this for a while before deciding to go this route. I talked to many tranny builders in my area including the company that built my severe RACE/DUTY 4R70-W tranny and 2400 stall converter. I plan on installing another trans temp guage on the "INCOMING" trans line just to see how much the fluid is getting cooled through the rad and my after market electric fan equipped tranny cooler.

Mark Kovalsky · #3 12-29-2002, 10:27 AM

You will see some fluctuation in city driving. The torque converter is unlocked in stop and go driving and will create more heat. When you stop the cooler can quickly get rid of this heat, and the temperature goes up and down.

Some people do like to see the maximum fluid temperature. You need to be in the outgoing line to see that. I don't see the need for that. I want to know the temperature of the transmission, not the fluid. If the transmission is staying at a reasonable temperature what difference does it make if the cooler is seeing higher temperatures?

If you really want to see fluctuations put the sender in the line to the cooler. Every time the torque converter is unlocked the temperature will spike high. Is that a problem that you need to take action for? I don't think so. So why would I want this information? I already know the cooler will see hotter fluid when the converter is not locked.

To each their own!

Neal · #4 12-29-2002, 01:38 PM

HI!... I have mine mounted in the "OUTGOING" tranny line and "NEVER" see any temp spikes at ALL! I like this set-up because when at the dragstrip in the burnout box you can keep a eye on the tranny fluid temps. During a long burnout when heatong your slicks you can heat of the tranny fluid really good. I've seen the fluid temp go from 175 degree's to way over 200 degree's while doing this. I run REDLINE D4 which is designed to go close to 280 degree's but for the guys runnin the stock FORD fluid it would be cooked. I've been doing this on all my trannies now for years and have never burnt any fluid or had a tranny fail because of overheating or burnt fluid. I see guys at the track all the timethat their trannies fail due to over heating and it's funny because everytime I ask them where they have their temp probe mounted? They tell me in the pan or in the tranny ports. JMO.

IAmGeeky · #5 12-29-2002, 05:22 PM

The folks on one of the RV forums posted this. Check out the Tranny section.

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BLU98 · #6 12-29-2002, 07:37 PM

What cold air intake is that you have? Also, what did you pay for that JDM long tube exhust kit? Any sound clips?

Neal · #7 12-29-2002, 09:14 PM

HI!... BLU98 : I designed and built my own air intake kit. I got my JDM/KOOKS long tube S/S headers from MIKE TROYER at PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS. I think I paid $875.00(U.S) for them. As for the rest of my exhaust system, it is all S/S MAGNAFLOW and I designed and built all of that too.

BLU98 · #8 12-30-2002, 12:30 PM

Nice job on that intake pipe! How was the install on the LT'S? I have a question on the Transgo shift kit and being I read the threads and it seems your the guy to ask a question about trannies! I'll be installing a Transgo Kit in my 98 F150 4.6 and was wondering if I set it up for the 2nd stage will it also be ok to use the Superchip Micro Tunner along with the Shift Kit? This is a daily driver and I wont use my truck the way you do at the strip! That's why I have my 10 second stang for!LOL. Any thoughts on the Kit or what is recomendedd will be helpful! I'll also be using the 2 Sonnax valves as well. How about the ball placement in the kit? I have read many different results form the guys on this site and it seems that the kit is either too hard of a shift for them or not enough? Again any info will be helpful. P.S., maybe you can try and lift the front wheels on your truck! That will be a different sight being cars and Lightnings can do it how about a F150? LOL. Nice truck by the way! It to seems like you got bite by the mod bug like I did with my 88 GT!

Neal · #9 12-31-2002, 10:09 PM

HI!... BLU98 : The long tubes are a piece of cake to install. It took me 3.5 hours to install my JBA shorty headers. The long tubes only took me about 1.5 hours and that's including taking the shorty headers off. You will have no problems with the TRANSGO shift kit set on stage 2 and running the superchip tuner. I have my TRANSGO shift kit set on it's highest setting plus my SUPERCHIP has a custom program to crank up tranny shift firmness "WAY" over the stock SUPERCHIP program. I was bittin by the mod bug a long time ago!LOL! I also have a N/A "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER with 713H.P. That's without the 250 big shot !LOL!

BLU98 · #10 01-01-2003, 08:45 PM

Seems like you got two nice trucks! That ranger has more HP then my 88 GT! It's a 347 with all the goods topped off with a Novi 200 Supercharger cog pullied for 18 lbs boost and just recentaly it made 628 hp and 548trq at Laroccas Performance in Oldbridge NJ. Those guys are awesome!