Need Exact location for trailer charge relay 1997 Expedition EB!! HELP!!
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Need Exact location for trailer charge relay 1997 Expedition EB!! HELP!!
Ok guys heres my delima,
About 2 weeks ago my trailer interior lights quit working. I dismissed this as an issue with my trailer. After checking everything humanly possible on the trailer and getting the lights to power up and work fine i determined it was issue with my truck. I started checking fuses on my truck every fuse that my manual list for the trailer checks out fine. My truck does not have the factory tow package as far as i know. I put my own 7 pin connector on the truck and put my own brake controller on. I thought at first i had an issue with the plug so i started probing the wires before the 7 way. I have power to all my lights, and to my brakes everything works except for the interior lights. I called the manufacturer of the trailer and they informed me that the trailer lights are powered by the 12+ pin on the connector. I started checking everything with the plug on the truck and i get NO JUICE at the 12+ pin(yes the ignition is on). The only thing that i can figure is that the relay for the charge has gone bad but i have NO IDEA where this is located under the hood, My manual does not tell me where this relay is can someone please help me out i really need this pin to work it charges my break away battery and it runs my interior lights im going nutz trying to figure out why i lost power to this pin i have wasted about 6 hours trying to get this working and i have come to the conclusion that the relay is bad but like stated before i have no idea which one is the trailer charge relay !! Thanks for all the help and sorry for the long post.
John
About 2 weeks ago my trailer interior lights quit working. I dismissed this as an issue with my trailer. After checking everything humanly possible on the trailer and getting the lights to power up and work fine i determined it was issue with my truck. I started checking fuses on my truck every fuse that my manual list for the trailer checks out fine. My truck does not have the factory tow package as far as i know. I put my own 7 pin connector on the truck and put my own brake controller on. I thought at first i had an issue with the plug so i started probing the wires before the 7 way. I have power to all my lights, and to my brakes everything works except for the interior lights. I called the manufacturer of the trailer and they informed me that the trailer lights are powered by the 12+ pin on the connector. I started checking everything with the plug on the truck and i get NO JUICE at the 12+ pin(yes the ignition is on). The only thing that i can figure is that the relay for the charge has gone bad but i have NO IDEA where this is located under the hood, My manual does not tell me where this relay is can someone please help me out i really need this pin to work it charges my break away battery and it runs my interior lights im going nutz trying to figure out why i lost power to this pin i have wasted about 6 hours trying to get this working and i have come to the conclusion that the relay is bad but like stated before i have no idea which one is the trailer charge relay !! Thanks for all the help and sorry for the long post.
John
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Well, I'll take a stab at this.....
The 12v charge FUSE is # 16 on my 1997 F150 in the under the hood fuse box. It's a 40 amp fuse. It's also the stop/turn lamps fuse too.
The 12v+ pin on the 7 pin is the one at the ~ 1 o'clock position while looking at the plug on the truck.
I'm actually not sure on the relay setup anymore.... As I look closer at mine, I have all the relay slots filled up.... My manual states that;
#1 is the interior lamps relay.
#2 is the battery saver relay.
#3 is not used (but I've got a relay in that slot??).
#4 is one touch down relay.
#5 is the accessory delay realy.....
Not sure what #6 is, but It's got a relay in it too???
The numbers on the relays are basically the same too....
1-3 are smaller relays and have "F57B-14B192-AA" stamped on them.
4-6 are larger relays and have "FOAB 14B192-AA" Stamped on them.
It sounds like you know the pin locations and know what to check.... You might try tracing the 12v+ wire back to each harness connection and see if it's one of those connections that you lose power on??
Good luck!
Mitch
The 12v charge FUSE is # 16 on my 1997 F150 in the under the hood fuse box. It's a 40 amp fuse. It's also the stop/turn lamps fuse too.
The 12v+ pin on the 7 pin is the one at the ~ 1 o'clock position while looking at the plug on the truck.
I'm actually not sure on the relay setup anymore.... As I look closer at mine, I have all the relay slots filled up.... My manual states that;
#1 is the interior lamps relay.
#2 is the battery saver relay.
#3 is not used (but I've got a relay in that slot??).
#4 is one touch down relay.
#5 is the accessory delay realy.....
Not sure what #6 is, but It's got a relay in it too???
The numbers on the relays are basically the same too....
1-3 are smaller relays and have "F57B-14B192-AA" stamped on them.
4-6 are larger relays and have "FOAB 14B192-AA" Stamped on them.
It sounds like you know the pin locations and know what to check.... You might try tracing the 12v+ wire back to each harness connection and see if it's one of those connections that you lose power on??
Good luck!
Mitch
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Originally posted by MitchF150
Well, I'll take a stab at this.....
The 12v charge FUSE is # 16 on my 1997 F150 in the under the hood fuse box. It's a 40 amp fuse. It's also the stop/turn lamps fuse too.
The 12v+ pin on the 7 pin is the one at the ~ 1 o'clock position while looking at the plug on the truck.
I'm actually not sure on the relay setup anymore.... As I look closer at mine, I have all the relay slots filled up.... My manual states that;
#1 is the interior lamps relay.
#2 is the battery saver relay.
#3 is not used (but I've got a relay in that slot??).
#4 is one touch down relay.
#5 is the accessory delay realy.....
Not sure what #6 is, but It's got a relay in it too???
The numbers on the relays are basically the same too....
1-3 are smaller relays and have "F57B-14B192-AA" stamped on them.
4-6 are larger relays and have "FOAB 14B192-AA" Stamped on them.
It sounds like you know the pin locations and know what to check.... You might try tracing the 12v+ wire back to each harness connection and see if it's one of those connections that you lose power on??
Good luck!
Mitch
Well, I'll take a stab at this.....
The 12v charge FUSE is # 16 on my 1997 F150 in the under the hood fuse box. It's a 40 amp fuse. It's also the stop/turn lamps fuse too.
The 12v+ pin on the 7 pin is the one at the ~ 1 o'clock position while looking at the plug on the truck.
I'm actually not sure on the relay setup anymore.... As I look closer at mine, I have all the relay slots filled up.... My manual states that;
#1 is the interior lamps relay.
#2 is the battery saver relay.
#3 is not used (but I've got a relay in that slot??).
#4 is one touch down relay.
#5 is the accessory delay realy.....
Not sure what #6 is, but It's got a relay in it too???
The numbers on the relays are basically the same too....
1-3 are smaller relays and have "F57B-14B192-AA" stamped on them.
4-6 are larger relays and have "FOAB 14B192-AA" Stamped on them.
It sounds like you know the pin locations and know what to check.... You might try tracing the 12v+ wire back to each harness connection and see if it's one of those connections that you lose power on??
Good luck!
Mitch
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Bad Relay
Have you tried swaping relays? See what will not work after switching one relay for another. Just keep track which one came from where and only swap the same type. Or you could buy an relay and swith it out one at a time until you get your problem solved. They can't cost too much.