online store, message boards, mailing list, pictures, technical information, product directory ford truck information, svt lightning information, f150 information, f-150 information, f250 information
Home Discussion Forums Photo Gallery Product Directory Technical Articles Recalls & TSB's Product Reviews Classifieds Ford & Industry News Event Calendar Advertise with us
F150online Forums



Look for a USED Ford F150
Carsdirect.com

Go Back   F150online Forums > Powertrain & Mechanical > Suspension

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-03-2009, 03:28 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicle: 2009 Ford F150
Posts: 403
Leveling Kit Question

Hey guys,

I have heard that if you do the upper spacer it puts stress on the UCA Ball Joints. Well I found a kit that they "say" doesn't do that. Is this legit or do all spacer leveling kits add stress to that ball joint. Here is a pic of the kit and what they say.

"This system includes a new upper strut mount as well as pre-load spacers. The use of a pre-load spacer increases performance in cornering as well as offsets the increase weight of larger tires to maintain a quality ride. Unlike most systems on the market, the two piece system does not max out the upper ball joints during suspension travel."

Register today or sign-in to remove these ads!

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-03-2009, 05:42 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Vehicle: 1994 F150
Posts: 80
Any kit that uses a spacer to level the front end is increasing the gap between the UCA and coil sping and puts stress on the CV and ball joints. The only way around that is a full suspension lift. Leveling kits within a reasonable size though can be used without putting too much stress on the CV/Ball, but they all add some, you are increasing the gap between the control arms so the angles have to change somewhere...
__________________
Bill

'94 XLT Scab 6' Rough Country, 33' BFG TA/KO's
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-03-2009, 11:07 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: cairo,ga
Vehicle: 2001 ford f150
Posts: 23,558
I agree. It's just a marketing gimmick. They all do the same thing. Anytime you increase the ball joint angle you increase wear and tear. How much, who knows? Most members have found that 2.5 is the limit before the wear and tear gets crazy.
__________________
2001 GEN III Supercrew, 4x4, gry interior, power bench seat with lumbar support
MODS...3" Body Lift, 315/75-16 BFG AT KO's on 16x10 Eagle 102 rims, Access roll up tonneau cover, tinted windows, chrome Westin nerf bars, SVT Lightning taillights, Pro Comp ES3000 shocks, Superchips tuner, Pioneer speakers
2005 Expedition, white Eddie Bauer Edition. MODS: 305/45-22 Falkens on chrome 22x9.5 Eagle Alloy 026 wheels, 20% window tint


Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-03-2009, 12:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicle: 2009 Ford F150
Posts: 403
Hmm... I don't want to put stress on my CV's and ball joints. The truck only has 500 miles lol. But then again I don't want to change the front suspension because I like the way the ride feels now.

Ugh.. its either hurt my baby and use a spacer or get a stiffer ride and use an adjustable shock. Why couldn't ford just make our trucks level lol.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-03-2009, 04:57 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Syracuse, NY
Vehicle: 2006 Ford F150
Posts: 476
Your only saying that now but once you drive it for a year, you will be like screw it and start going crazy with everything. Happened to me.
__________________

| 2006 XLT 5.4 | 4x4 | 2.5 AS leveling kit | AS AAL | Volant CAI |
| PHP Gryphon Custom Tunes | Dynomax Bullet Dual Exhaust |
| 17x8 XD Spy's +18os| 315/70-17 Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs |
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-03-2009, 05:55 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicle: 2009 Ford F150
Posts: 403
Quote:
Originally Posted by aPINCHbetter90 View Post
Your only saying that now but once you drive it for a year, you will be like screw it and start going crazy with everything. Happened to me.
So do you regret going with the spacers?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-04-2009, 12:04 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: cairo,ga
Vehicle: 2001 ford f150
Posts: 23,558
The ball joints on these truck are really high wear items. Will it really matter if you wear them out at 45,000 miles vs. 50,000 miles?
__________________
2001 GEN III Supercrew, 4x4, gry interior, power bench seat with lumbar support
MODS...3" Body Lift, 315/75-16 BFG AT KO's on 16x10 Eagle 102 rims, Access roll up tonneau cover, tinted windows, chrome Westin nerf bars, SVT Lightning taillights, Pro Comp ES3000 shocks, Superchips tuner, Pioneer speakers
2005 Expedition, white Eddie Bauer Edition. MODS: 305/45-22 Falkens on chrome 22x9.5 Eagle Alloy 026 wheels, 20% window tint


Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-04-2009, 03:17 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicle: 2009 Ford F150
Posts: 403
Quote:
Originally Posted by wandell View Post
The ball joints on these truck are really high wear items. Will it really matter if you wear them out at 45,000 miles vs. 50,000 miles?
So when I hit 45-50k I'll have to replace the ball joints? Is this expensive? Also are our CV boots high wear items as well?? This whole spacer lift idea is beginning to not sound like a good idea.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-04-2009, 07:00 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Northern CA
Vehicle: 2008 Ford F150
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by slimcubby View Post
Hmm... I don't want to put stress on my CV's and ball joints. The truck only has 500 miles lol. But then again I don't want to change the front suspension because I like the way the ride feels now.

Ugh.. its either hurt my baby and use a spacer or get a stiffer ride and use an adjustable shock. Why couldn't ford just make our trucks level lol.
If you do ANYTHING to the suspension on these trucks it will ride differently, this is not only because of the suspension, but also the new tires you will put on.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-05-2009, 02:57 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 61
I'm also contemplating a leveling kit for my truck. I have no front CV's to worry about.(2WD)

What are some reccomended level kits for a 2WD F150? And, once leveled, what size tires can you clear on a leveled 2WD?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-05-2009, 09:55 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: cairo,ga
Vehicle: 2001 ford f150
Posts: 23,558
Same kits. You can clear 33's on a leveled 4x2.
__________________
2001 GEN III Supercrew, 4x4, gry interior, power bench seat with lumbar support
MODS...3" Body Lift, 315/75-16 BFG AT KO's on 16x10 Eagle 102 rims, Access roll up tonneau cover, tinted windows, chrome Westin nerf bars, SVT Lightning taillights, Pro Comp ES3000 shocks, Superchips tuner, Pioneer speakers
2005 Expedition, white Eddie Bauer Edition. MODS: 305/45-22 Falkens on chrome 22x9.5 Eagle Alloy 026 wheels, 20% window tint


Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-05-2009, 12:37 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New Brunswick Canada
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 14
i had a 3 inch leveling kit on my truck, and i took it out soon after because my biggest concern was the cv's because they were at a really big angle. from factory with your truck sitting on level ground they should be pretty much flat, but my cv's were just about maxed out on the angle sitting on level ground, so i could see it wearing out front shafts fast ( and ball joints but they are bad enough the way they are anyway)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-05-2009, 01:00 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by wandell View Post
Same kits. You can clear 33's on a leveled 4x2.
Cool man, thanks.

I was looking at leveling kits last night after I posted here, and I saw 3 different heights. 1.5 inch, 2 inch, and 2.5 inch. Which one should I go with to be able to clear 33's?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: cairo,ga
Vehicle: 2001 ford f150
Posts: 23,558
2.5.
__________________
2001 GEN III Supercrew, 4x4, gry interior, power bench seat with lumbar support
MODS...3" Body Lift, 315/75-16 BFG AT KO's on 16x10 Eagle 102 rims, Access roll up tonneau cover, tinted windows, chrome Westin nerf bars, SVT Lightning taillights, Pro Comp ES3000 shocks, Superchips tuner, Pioneer speakers
2005 Expedition, white Eddie Bauer Edition. MODS: 305/45-22 Falkens on chrome 22x9.5 Eagle Alloy 026 wheels, 20% window tint


Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-06-2009, 11:24 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: gb, wi
Vehicle: 2007 FORD F150
Posts: 13
i researched a lot and ended up getting the 2" AS front spacers and they do have an offset on them to help with angles. install was a breeze and the angles of cv and ball joints arent bad at all. put 33's on and rides just fine. and almost dead level and ball joints are no biggie. i know here in gb if they go bad i can get them for cheap and do it myelf for way under 200. go for it.
Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
 
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company
Contact Us Advertising Terms of Use Privacy Statement Jobs Forum Text Archives