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Old 09-29-2008, 06:14 PM
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Anyone have the 6" lift plus 2.5" spacer for a total of 8.5" lift?

Has anyone who has the 6" suspension lift and 2.5" spacer had any trouble with there front axles when they've put the front end in a bind? I haven't put mind in the mud or anything so was wondering if this will cause any problems in the future. I seen alot of other people doing the same instead of spend the extra $1500 for an 8" lift that Rize has.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:09 AM
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do you have a lift already or are you planning on lifting? if it was me, i'd use the bilsteins set at the 2 inch mark rather than stacking a spacer with a lift, it aint gonna hurt nothing but IMO thats too much stress on the cv's.
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:49 AM
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Not exactly...... But I have a 4.5 inch kit with longer coil-overs for 7 inches of lift. Same principal as a 6 inch set at 8.5 inches. I just reset my ride height Friday......so I can't really comment on any long term effects. I had been running my truck at 4.5 inches because I'm still sitting on stock wheels and tires. However, I can say that even with the extra 2.5 inches, nothing binds, and the suspension cycles freely. The reason I went with the 4.5 inch kit is because I didn't want to widen the front track width like the 6 inch kits do. And, I wanted to be able to run stock wheels if I needed to. It cost twice as much to buy the 4.5 inch kit and modify it to 7 inches......versus just buying a 6 inch kit, but that's what I wanted.


If you want over 8 inches of lift, I believe doing the 6 inch kit spaced to 8.5 inches is a better alternative to the Rize kit. You get more ground clearance, lower center of gravity, none of that "drop down steering stuff" and other questionable bracketry that comes with the Rize kit.

The front CV shafts would be the least of your worries. They don't turn when you're in 2wd......they just sit there. And when you have them locked in 4wd, the extra angle isn't anything to worry about. Your only real "problem area" would be the ball joints. The upper ball joint isn't gonna be very happy. But it's no different than running a "leveling kit"......so it's just something you'll have to deal with.
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:54 AM
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i have a 6 inch fabtech with a 2.5 inch spacer and had it about a year. no problems at all so far. Everything is in check and nothing has broken.

ps i have the coil-overs from fabtech and they are cranked .75 inches
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:18 AM
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Yes I currently have the 6" procomp and 2.5" coil spacer. I was told by a local rim/tire shop who also installs lift kits that it would put to much on a bind, but these are the same ones who wanted to charge me 1000 to instal the 6" lift. Thanks for all ya'll inputs.




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Old 09-30-2008, 10:45 AM
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Yes I currently have the 6" procomp and 2.5" coil spacer. I was told by a local rim/tire shop who also installs lift kits that it would put to much on a bind, but these are the same ones who wanted to charge me 1000 to instal the 6" lift. Thanks for all ya'll inputs.




first off i love youre truck 2nd there aint really nothing wrong with doing it unless you wheel it hard, theres nothing different doing a spacer on top a lift and cranking the coilovers to get more lift. if it was me, i assume you wanna run 37's (i got your carodomain site bookmarked) i would take the spacer off and run the bilsteins up front, gaining you 2 inches and enough to clear 37's on 22x10's. gonna cost you more, but a better choice IMO. tonkatruck33 and a couple other guys are running this same setup. but if your truck dont get wheeled, i'd leave what you got. oh yeah go with the toyo muds over the kumho's, welcome to the site man, you'll go broke trust me
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:25 AM
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Thanks.. I'll more then likly stay with what I have now maybe for the exception of replacing the add-a-leaf with a block. It kind of made if ride a little rough. Any reason why you choose the Toyo over the Kumho? I'm sure the Toyo will last longer. I've seen them on trucks around here, but haven't seen the Kumho's yet in person. I want the most aggresive looking. Mud Grapplers are nice, but to bad of a ride.
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i haven't heard alot about the kumhos either, but i seen them and they looked really nice. what would do it for me would be the price, i looked a couple places where i have bought tires from and the kumho and toyo's and much difference in price, personally i would go with the toyo's. from what i read they get good wear for a mud tire too. i dont know what he means about the 6 and a spacer is a better alternative to a rize???? but id so rather have a rize if i could that a spacer and a 6 incher. i was pissed when i found i couldnt run a rize and 37's (stupid lift laws, knew i shoulda bought a SD) i think hillbilly has no idea about what he's talking about? the extra angle is nothing to worry about? good luck with that, stock cv's are not meant to be at severe angles, use your 4x4 enough and you'll be a pro at changing out cv's. the ford bj's are notorious for being weak and bigger tires just help those puny units wear out even quicker. lower center of gravity? WOW that makes no sense, lifting a vehicle no matter how you do it, increases the center of gravity, hence why they reccommend running 10 inch wide rims with the rize and a shallow backspace. thor is running a lifted 2wd no cv's to worry about. i think the shop is just saying the proper way is to use all lift and no spacer, just trying to fill their pockets, enough stupid people in the world i guess dont hurt to try.

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Old 09-30-2008, 12:48 PM
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heres a pic of the cv's on djh1121's truck when he had it



thats pretty vicious in my opinion, are your's that bad??
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:38 PM
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Mine aren't quite that bad, but not a whole lot less of an angle. Since the truck is for mostly show and I don't use it for offroading alot it shouldn't be a real big issue. I think eventually I'll put the 8" lift though just for incase.

I've priced the tires only once and I want to say they were around $510 ea. for the Kumho's and $520 ea. for the Toyo's so price won't really matter. My truck made a year in June and has 11,000 miles right now so even a 30,000 mile tire will last me around 4 yrs. Theres a dark blue F-150 on cardomain running 38" kumho's on 20's that caught my eye. When I got a quote on the Kumho I was also told that they have to be balanced quite often.
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:23 PM
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tires shouldn't have to be balanced more than once unless a weight goes missing. is that price installed or just the tire?
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:28 PM
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Thats mounted, balance ready to go. There's another place I will call before I buy though b/c I'm pretty sure I can find them around 500 ea. or a lil under.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:04 PM
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[quote=ATOM;3394159]heres a pic of the cv's on djh1121's truck when he had it



OUCH!!!! Those angles look BAD !
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:54 PM
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Atom: I couple points I would like to make....

#1 Quit making claims when you don't have all the facts, and/or basing your opinions on second hand information.

"stock cv's are not meant to be at severe angles, use your 4x4 enough and you'll be a pro at changing out cv's."

"thats pretty vicious in my opinion, are your's that bad??"

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No, mine AREN'T that bad
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