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Old 12-04-2000, 11:39 PM
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Angry Wrecked my 99 F150. Should I weight it Down?

So I'm driving down a rainy highway minding my own business, when the right rear end of my custom built F-150 comes swinging around. Yep...I was going about 50 on a 4 lane highway and hydroplaned. Fortunately, no other cars were involved and I was not injured. Me and my truck ended up on top of the concrete divider. $5300 in damage. The repair shop did a great job, and I am again a happy commuter (That little Toyota Corolla rental got old real fast!).

Questions:

1) Has anyone experienced spontaneous spin-outs?

2) Doesn't Ford make something that will weight down the back end?

3) If so, would it help??

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Old 12-05-2000, 01:07 AM
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I'm guessing your truck had the stock Goodyear RT/S tires...might want to get some better quality tires. I highly recommend the Bridgestone Dueler AT. I'm not aware of anything ford makes that'll add weight to the back end of the truck. You could buy a heavy-duty replacement rear bumper...those tend to carry some weight. Your other option might be to add a big piece of sheet metal to the bed. Hope this helps.

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Old 12-05-2000, 03:32 AM
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Yep I bet it was the stock tires.I had it(spin out) happen to me once on a two lane road on a corner.Luckily, there was no oncoming traffic.I did over correct trying to stop that spinout.I corrected again and it tried to slide the other way.If you could have saw it, you probably would have laughed it looked so staged.The rear end of my truck just a swinging back and forth.Since I put my Pirelli Scorpion At tires on,I have had no hydroplaning issues whatsoever.I think any aftermarket tire will remedy the hydroplaning.(within reason).
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Old 12-05-2000, 01:14 PM
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Back when I had my lowrider, I never hydroplaned at all. Even with the stock tires. But when it was stock hieght it did have a tendancy to slide a little. Now that was a while ago and it also was a nissan and I have seen the light and gotten my self a respectable vehicle. I am curious though, have any of you lowered F150's noticed any hydroplanning after being lowered?

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Old 12-05-2000, 07:16 PM
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My truck is lifted alittle and was driving down 35 to San Antonio, it was pouring out atleast a inch of water on the road, and my truck held at 90 with ease...Dont think it has anything to do with the lift/lower thing....Think you guys hit it on the nail...factory tires suck..Good luck..Dave

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Old 12-05-2000, 07:28 PM
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DAVENSA:

I'm running the original stock Goodyear Wrangler AT's with 22k miles. I rotate all 4 tires (back to front/front crossed to back) every 6000 miles.



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Old 12-05-2000, 07:44 PM
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Get some new tires, ever since I got rid of my Goodyear APs I haven't had any problem driving on wet concrete.

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Old 12-05-2000, 07:59 PM
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TexasDude,
I'll just add my 2 cents worth.
GOODYEAR TRUCK TIRES SUCK.
I now drive on Goodrich All Terrains, and noticed the difference in traction immediately. There are other brands just as good (Pirellis, Michelins, etc.)

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Old 12-05-2000, 08:01 PM
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Correction: my tires are Goodyear AP's. NOT Goodyear AT's as previously stated.

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Old 12-05-2000, 09:20 PM
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I've been following the Goodyear-bashing with curiosity for months. Going from the Wrangler AP (I think) P255/70R16 on my '97 to the RT/S LT245/75R16 on the Y2K seem a pronounced IMPROVEMENT in dry as well as wet traction -- and if you fellows have seen such a dramatic improvement with the Goodrich etc tires, I'm interested.

During the lunchtime trek thru the parking lot, I've noticed no less than FIVE different tread patterns on the Wrangler RT/S tires alone -- and wonder how much the tread and tire carcass (like: the P-series get inflated to much less tire pressures than do the LT series) have in common.

Now with 16,000 on the tires, and the first real snow (>16" two weeks ago), the RT/S are pretty confidence-inspiring -- at least on my truck.

Based on the tire wear, it will be at least a few more years before I'll be looking for new tires -- and I'll be pretty tuned-in to your suggestions by then.

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Old 12-05-2000, 10:17 PM
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My Goodyear Eagle GT II tires that came with the truck have been doing well, dry or wet.

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Old 12-08-2000, 02:08 AM
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Well, around here, we have a lot of small pickups, all 4x2's esp nissans. Farm workers use them. They spin out on ice and water all the time.

In the winter I notice most of the smaller pickups like rangers and S10's (we all know what the "S" in S10 stands for, right? ;-) )
sorry, people put hay bales in them for the winter. They weigh about 100lbs each, I think.

I have never seen a full- size pickup spin out around here during the winter or on bad roads. And I never see them with hay bales, either. But we dont get huge rain, either, that's over in seattle and portland.

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Old 12-08-2000, 06:36 PM
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For those who don't like either brand,The Michelin LTX M/S tires are the best truck
tires I 've used. The handling difference
was astounding. Of course this could be
because the van conversion company used passenger car tires on a vehicle that weighed over 2 1/2 tons,lol,,,,98

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Old 12-10-2000, 09:50 PM
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Are you sure that it is the tires and not you? As a 17 year old I would like to start by saying that some people think I do drive like a true american teenager. I also do not have any trouble out of my stock tires. Even while having a manual transmission.

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Old 12-13-2000, 03:49 PM
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TexasDude,

Knowing that your tires are prone to hydroplaning helps. I had the Goodyear Wrangler RTs on my truck. When they were new they were fine. As they wore out they got progressively harder to control in the rain.
Testing for hydroplaning during your trip helps also.

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