Would like to install a turbo on a 5.4
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For folks like MGD who spend all kinds of time researching topics for people that won't do it themselves, it seems unfair. I can't tell you how many times I've seen him call a feller out fer not utilizing the search feature and then post links answering the question at hand. If he can do it, why can't you?
I think you're only seeing half of the reason for this forum. Sure, it's for folks to ask questions when they seek an answer or opinion on a more unique situation or subject. However, it also contains an encyclopedic amount of information that is just a few clicks away. Provided, of course, that you're not too lazy to click a mouse button.
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#19
Wow when did it become a crime to ask a question? The search takes hours because of threads filled with nothing but bs much like this one. Many of them are pages long with no definitive answer. Don't want to answer the guys question then shut tfu and do something else. And while I'm ranting what is up with the non fi'd guys posting advice in these threads about the do's and don'ts of FI? There's a new question that hasn't been ask "3 times" this week. Mull that one over. rant off
Now to the op, the 5.4 3v can be pushed up to 12psi. However you can count on a shorter life span. 6-8psi is considered safe and 9-10psi is a nice step up that the factory fuel pump can handle. Now while these lower boost numbers can be called safe or safer then 12psi don't be fooled. With an improper tune or setup things can be destroyed quickly. Finding a tuner who truly knows these trucks will be key. As for the turbo, can you perform your own fab work? If not I will have to point you back to Ironsin advice and tell you go with an sc. Mgd also mentioned this route. A turbo is gonna cost big bucks if you have to pay someone to fab it up. Sts makes a kit but you won't feel the power unless you are really pushing the truck and for the same $$$ you could go sc and be much happier. A rear mount turbo is gonna have lag as will a large turbo. So speak with some pros when selecting a size. Look up luckythirteen13 on here. He located the parts and fab'd up his own kit. You will need larger injectors for any boost. The stock 24lb injectors will not do the job. The 39lb cobra injectors work very well as do the 42's mentioned earlier. If you exceed 10psi you will need larger injectors (47-60lb) and a fuel system. What is your power goal? How do you plan to use the truck?
Now to the op, the 5.4 3v can be pushed up to 12psi. However you can count on a shorter life span. 6-8psi is considered safe and 9-10psi is a nice step up that the factory fuel pump can handle. Now while these lower boost numbers can be called safe or safer then 12psi don't be fooled. With an improper tune or setup things can be destroyed quickly. Finding a tuner who truly knows these trucks will be key. As for the turbo, can you perform your own fab work? If not I will have to point you back to Ironsin advice and tell you go with an sc. Mgd also mentioned this route. A turbo is gonna cost big bucks if you have to pay someone to fab it up. Sts makes a kit but you won't feel the power unless you are really pushing the truck and for the same $$$ you could go sc and be much happier. A rear mount turbo is gonna have lag as will a large turbo. So speak with some pros when selecting a size. Look up luckythirteen13 on here. He located the parts and fab'd up his own kit. You will need larger injectors for any boost. The stock 24lb injectors will not do the job. The 39lb cobra injectors work very well as do the 42's mentioned earlier. If you exceed 10psi you will need larger injectors (47-60lb) and a fuel system. What is your power goal? How do you plan to use the truck?
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#21
Wow when did it become a crime to ask a question? The search takes hours because of threads filled with nothing but bs much like this one. Many of them are pages long with no definitive answer. Don't want to answer the guys question then shut tfu and do something else. And while I'm ranting what is up with the non fi'd guys posting advice in these threads about the do's and don'ts of FI? There's a new question that hasn't been ask "3 times" this week. Mull that one over. rant off
To Windsor's point, when matching a turbo set up for an application the starting point is generally the required hp number and matching a system to it,
boost is a secondary consideration.
#23
I have my doubts about 12 psi being safe with a turbo. It's going to make a whole lot more power than a supercharger application at that level, so longevity might be compromised. STS has the only bolt-on kit I know of, but I don't like how it's mounted beneath the truck.
#25
While that makes sense, I'm not sure it would work out that way. If you've ever been short block shopping, you see the engine rated in terms of horsepower, same with connecting rods. With higher horsepower you have greater acceleration rates applied to the piston and we know the piston and rod combination in these mod motors are the weak link. You may be right, but I can't find any information to support either argument. No doubt you could get by making more horsepower with a turbo application, but I doubt it's a boost for boost trade off.
#26
do want honesty, or answers you want to hear?
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