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Old 09-14-2008, 04:13 PM
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6.5" speakers

what are good 6.5" component speakers for my 03 screw? I want to get 6.5" but i dont know if 6x8s are better? Right now i leaning towards the polk audio momo mmc6500 6.5" or the Infinity Kappa 680.9cs 6x8 but i dont know what to get

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Old 09-14-2008, 11:55 PM
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you can get the exact same 6x8 component speaker set as the 6.5, the 6x8 will have a better woofer on it as well but sound wise...itll prolly sound the same

the infinitys will have a lot of treble, i mean a whole lot (i personally dont like the infinity door speakers, but their subs are awesome) however they still do sound great other than the extra treble
the momos i havent personally heard that exact speaker but i have heard momos before and they sound pretty good

you might want to look into getting a 4 chanel to amp to along with those
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:59 AM
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what are good 6.5" component speakers for my 03 screw? I want to get 6.5" but i dont know if 6x8s are better? Right now i leaning towards the polk audio momo mmc6500 6.5" or the Infinity Kappa 680.9cs 6x8 but i dont know what to get
MOMO!!!! FTMTW!!! Infinity sucks worse than stock.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:28 AM
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MOMO!!!! FTMTW!!! Infinity sucks worse than stock.
x2 the polk momos that i've heard have sounded pretty decent for just a stock replacement.

The key: amp them!
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:28 PM
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if you arent gonna go with an amp, get the regular Polks.


Infinity Kappas and Polk Momo really need an amp to be worth it. if you under power a speaker too much, you can blow just as easily as overpowering it. and a factory deck will only put out an average of about 25watts. even aftermarket decks only have an RMS of about 50 watts.

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Old 09-15-2008, 07:30 PM
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if you arent gonna go with an amp, get the regular Polks.


Infinity Kappas and Polk Momo really need an amp to be worth it. if you under power a speaker too much, you can blow just as easily as overpowering it. and a factory deck will only put out an average of about 25watts. even aftermarket decks only have an RMS of about 50 watts.

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yea im getting a amp to power, the kicker zx350.4. now what which would be better, polk momos or polk DBs and also 6x8s or 6.5s?
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Old 09-15-2008, 07:44 PM
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IMHO, Momo is over priced and not worth it. I have the DBs amped with a DB sub and my truck is damn loud. as far as 6x8 or 6.5, its personal preference. 6x8 (5x7) might give you a bit more bass, but if you are gonna add a sub, you wont need it and 6.5s are fine. I did 5x7s all around in my cousin's truck with a 10" mtx road thunder sub and it sounds amazing.
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Old 09-15-2008, 07:53 PM
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yea im getting a amp to power, the kicker zx350.4. now what which would be better, polk momos or polk DBs and also 6x8s or 6.5s?
I did a bit of research which will help you...

the kicker zx350.4 RMS 60 Watts/channel

polk momo 5x7 RMS 80 Watts
Polk momo 6.5 RMS 80 Watts

Polk DB 5x7 RMS 60 Watts
Polk DB 6.5 RMS 60 watts

You will still slightly under power the momos anyway. I think your amp will match perfectly with the DB series. Just because they can handle a little more doesnt mean they will sound better when using the same amp. it just means you should put a bigger amp on them

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Old 09-16-2008, 01:18 AM
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if you arent gonna go with an amp, get the regular Polks.


Infinity Kappas and Polk Momo really need an amp to be worth it. if you under power a speaker too much, you can blow just as easily as overpowering it. and a factory deck will only put out an average of about 25watts. even aftermarket decks only have an RMS of about 50 watts.

just my .02
What aftm radio puts out any more than 22W RMS?!?!

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yea im getting a amp to power, the kicker zx350.4. now what which would be better, polk momos or polk DBs and also 6x8s or 6.5s?
MOMOs have a much better midbass but will need more power. Where are you getting the 350.4 from and @ what price?

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IMHO, Momo is over priced and not worth it. I have the DBs amped with a DB sub and my truck is damn loud. as far as 6x8 or 6.5, its personal preference. 6x8 (5x7) might give you a bit more bass, but if you are gonna add a sub, you wont need it and 6.5s are fine. I did 5x7s all around in my cousin's truck with a 10" mtx road thunder sub and it sounds amazing.
The MOMO's arent overpriced. 5x7 would be a waste, much less linear, more distortion and breakup, less midbass.
6.5" FTW!!

dB's arent a comparison SQL wise. SQ MOMO, SPL MOMO.

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I did a bit of research which will help you...

the kicker zx350.4 RMS 60 Watts/channel

polk momo 5x7 RMS 80 Watts
Polk momo 6.5 RMS 80 Watts

Polk DB 5x7 RMS 60 Watts
Polk DB 6.5 RMS 60 watts

You will still slightly under power the momos anyway. I think your amp will match perfectly with the DB series. Just because they can handle a little more doesnt mean they will sound better when using the same amp. it just means you should put a bigger amp on them
The MOMOs need approx 100WRMS at the starting point.
DB the maxRMS is about 65.

The MOMO's off the 350.4 would be a bit of a waste. They are very power hungry and the more you can give them the better they will sound. Im not trying to be a MOMO nut. Hell, I sell the dB's everyday. They are my go-to for a decent price. But are they comparable to the MOMO's? HELL NO!

Ive done more dB and 350.4 setups than anyone here can probably guess. Can it sound good? Yes. In an F150 it the doors really need to be deadened/sealed like crazy to get any mid out of them. Thats why Im reppin the MOMOs on this one...

If you have any other questions, just ask.
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The MOMOs need approx 100WRMS at the starting point.
DB the maxRMS is about 65.
Where are you getting these numbers?

DB series = 60 Watts according to Polk
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/specs/db651/

MOMOs = 80 Watts according to Polk
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/sp...series/mmc650/



MMC650 = $149/pr (when not on sale)
DB651 = $99/pr
Definitely not worth the extra $50, you are buying the name MOMO.
Also not worth the extra $50 if you have an amp that has an RMS of 60w

Of course they will sound better if properly amped. but, unless you are going for a competition stereo, its not worth the extra $$




BETA08, best thing is go into a best buy or circuit city and listen to them yourself. they will probably have both set up for demo.

MOMOs are actually $50 off on crutchfield right now, tho. so hurry up and snatch them up if you decide to get them

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Where are you getting these numbers?

DB series = 60 Watts according to Polk
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/specs/db651/

MOMOs = 80 Watts according to Polk
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/sp...series/mmc650/



MMC650 = $149/pr (when not on sale)
DB651 = $99/pr
Definitely not worth the extra $50, you are buying the name MOMO.
Also not worth the extra $50 if you have an amp that has an RMS of 60w

Of course they will sound better if properly amped. but, unless you are going for a competition stereo, its not worth the extra $$
You are basing this just off shear numbers. The point Low is making is that speakers are often under or over rated. He does this for a living, he plays around with these speakers daily and knows them back and front with his eyes closed. I personally have installed both the dB and MOMO series and the MOMOs really are better and worth that extra 50 bucks. Power ratings are power ratings...has nothing to do with the musical output of the speaker.

PS both of these speakers are FAR from competition level.
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I stand corrected

i am just going off what I experienced when I used to install. however, maybe they have improved the MOMOs. it has been a few years since I compared.
I know that some speakers are under or over rated. but i also know sometimes sales guys inflate numbers a bit to make the sale. not saying low is doing that, but it happens.

ps... i never said DBs were competition.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:07 AM
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The MOMO's off the 350.4 would be a bit of a waste. They are very power hungry and the more you can give them the better they will sound. Im not trying to be a MOMO nut. Hell, I sell the dB's everyday. They are my go-to for a decent price. But are they comparable to the MOMO's? HELL NO!
Yea you convinced me im getting the momos, but will the kicker 350.4 be enough to power the momos or should i get a bigger amp? Im gonna get 6.5components in the front and regular 6.5 momos in the rear.
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Bigger amp. NO DOUBT! Like I said starting at 100W RMS.

Heres another idea. dB 5x7 or 6.5 in the rear off the deck. And bridge the MOMO's off the amp. That would work too, just watch the output levels into the spks at that power point.
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Where are you getting these numbers?

DB series = 60 Watts according to Polk
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/specs/db651/

MOMOs = 80 Watts according to Polk
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/sp...series/mmc650/

MMC650 = $149/pr (when not on sale)
DB651 = $99/pr
Definitely not worth the extra $50, you are buying the name MOMO.
Also not worth the extra $50 if you have an amp that has an RMS of 60w

Of course they will sound better if properly amped. but, unless you are going for a competition stereo, its not worth the extra $$




BETA08, best thing is go into a best buy or circuit city and listen to them yourself. they will probably have both set up for demo.

MOMOs are actually $50 off on crutchfield right now, tho. so hurry up and snatch them up if you decide to get them
Ive yet to understand why some of the spk companies, dont do their products the justice deserved... 150 for these spks is a decent price (being its a mainstream brand). I could see 250.

CCity, doesnt carry the MOMOs. Nor does BBy carry Polk Car in their stores yet.

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You are basing this just off shear numbers. The point Low is making is that speakers are often under or over rated. He does this for a living, he plays around with these speakers daily and knows them back and front with his eyes closed. I personally have installed both the dB and MOMO series and the MOMOs really are better and worth that extra 50 bucks. Power ratings are power ratings...has nothing to do with the musical output of the speaker.

PS both of these speakers are FAR from competition level.
Thanks bro.

Agreed, numbers are exactly that, NUMBERS. Ive played with the dB's to the point I can almost exactly judge amount of midbass, mid and higher frequencies in each car pre-sale (in my head, cant give #'s). Its horrible, I need a new line.

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I stand corrected

i am just going off what I experienced when I used to install. however, maybe they have improved the MOMOs. it has been a few years since I compared.
I know that some speakers are under or over rated. but i also know sometimes sales guys inflate numbers a bit to make the sale. not saying low is doing that, but it happens.

ps... i never said DBs were competition.
The old MOMO's were damn nice.

I could careless if he went out an bought them. It doesnt help/hurt me any. Therefore, why inflate. Hell, its the internet....
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