[QUOTE=CometFlash;3161321]Yeah, that is super bad. Never noticed it before now. Wonder why it's so bad? QUOTE]

what is "super bad"?

 

So you pee in a tank for the NOx after-treatment? Too bad diesel now costs an arm and a leg more than gas.

 

plus the extra cost of this other shtuff you have to buy at oil changes + drive to the dealer. how many trucks will be driving around with out refilling that.?

 

didnt see where it said 310 hp in any of those pics

 

[QUOTE=marwilli1;3161330]The fake wood grain in the Platinum trim.

 

Ok lets look at this.......If the 5.4 is 310 HP that would be 310HP x 9%=27.9 more HP or 337.9 HP


Now the torque.....365 in the 5.4 with a 15% increase would be 365 x 15%=54.75 more TQ or 419.75 FT-LBs


Now the fuel economy.....And this is where alot of people think this engine is going to be great.....The 5.4 is 18-20MPG x 20%=21.6-24 MPG


To me all these numbers are not that great but thats just me. I cant see paying the extra money up-front for the diesel, the extra cost for maintance, the higer fuel cost, I just cant see the benefit of the diesel.

 

um, your fuel estimates are kinda high. Ford website says MPG for '08 F150 is 13-17 so that would put the diesel at 15.6-20.4MPG

So that only makes me agree with you even more. I'd say if there's next to no premium for the diesel option, maybe. Otherwise I just don't see the point.

 

that is what they were told at the show... probably by your moms, sister in laws, aunt...

 

Nothing in print about the HP numbers means nobody knows, still.

 

Well FORD stating it at the dealer show is about as public or printed as your gonna get. but thats just my uneducated 2cents.

 

you need to water mark all of your pics ASAP, as you have already discovered, they tend to wander quickly

 

The 2009 F-150 fuel economy will be better than the 2008 F-150, and Ford is basing the 20%+ 2010 increase off of the 2009 F-150 increased fuel economy. It also says 20 + increase for the diesel which could mean an additional 20-30% increase.

There is more to it than just the costs involved. The benefit of a diesel is for people who haul and tow - increased hauling and towing. Then there will be people who say, but Rambo, if you're going to tow why don't you just buy a Super Duty? Because for 1) some people like the F-150 better and 2) the Super Duty costs more.

 

Find me a link stating this from 2008. Last i heard the tonawanda plan wasnt going to make the engine and GM was not sure if a small diesel was still in the works.....

 

I'm holding the new May/June Truck Trend in my hand page 13! Hows that for your LINK!.........

 

Word of mouth isn't proof.